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On 11/12/2012, at 1:37 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> I would LOVE to know the list, because I can stop them.
>
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 5:43 PM, Adesh Chaudhary <
> er.adeshchaudhary_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Tim,
>>
>> Neither I mean to offend, Nor I am judging anyone.
>>
>> There are X number of vendors out there that are supplying these labs for
>> many years, that too along with Guarantees. let me know if you want a list?
>>
>> You think Cisco is unaware of them? If Yes, I'd say WoWwwwww... If I am
>> being apathaetic, What is Cisco doing? Don't they know how to google or
>> what? Why don't they change the labs that frequently? If No, What did they
>> do about it? Maybe something without results, I don't know.
>>
>> Come on... they took jeremy cioara's blog down few years back, you think
>> they can't take on these sites?
>>
>> I make my choices, you make yours, others will choose for themselves. End
>> of the story.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 6:35 AM, Tim Cribbs Jr. <tmcribbs_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think we all have a solid understanding of what happens in
>>> interviews to those who dump, no hidden fact. But lots of us DO care
>>> about this topic, so to be so apathetic about it says a lot about you.
>>>
>>> ...LOL
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 5:44 PM, Adesh Chaudhary
>>> <er.adeshchaudhary_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> ccie exam has limited sets, No hidden fact. What if I give you mock
>>>> questions with same topology (replace Ethernet with serial or whatever)
>>> and
>>>> similar IP's (replace subnet X with Y) & I think that should be enough.
>>> They
>>>> are Cisco Partners... If using dumps, I believe they'd have found a
>>>> workaround OR dont know OR dont care OR whatever. For those who will
>>> pass,
>>>> will struggle in interviews OR even get a job but what next ???
>> Struggle
>>> to
>>>> justify their number... or would it be easier to hide OR may be do
>>> another
>>>> one the same way... LOL
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 2:39 AM, Tim Cribbs Jr. <tmcribbs_at_gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I think what he is saying is - if a company claims that they can teach
>>>>> you the entire blueprint in 11 days - with a guarantee - that it is
>>>>> way too suspicious. The guarantee just makes it more suspicious.
>>>>> Anyone can claim to teach you the blueprint in 11 days, but to
>>>>> guarantee passing based on having you take just a couple "practice"
>>>>> labs makes it plainly obvious. I really don't know what the confusion
>>>>> is on this...
>>>>>
>>>>> Tim
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Haroon <itguy.pro_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Ahmed,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> so, what is the problem with the guarantee? Are you saying that even
>>>>>> though
>>>>>> they offer a guarantee, you still can't pass the lab? There is a
>> hint
>>> in
>>>>>> there somewhere. ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Ahmed <ahmedsalim_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I certainly believe so put have no proof. But this topic has been
>>>>>>> discussed
>>>>>>> here over and over again. The reason I have posted this is because
>>>>>>> emtech
>>>>>>> is a big cisco player, and a big training institute. If they are
>>> doing
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>> openly, blatantly, in front of Cisco's eyes and ears, than this is
>>>>>>> definitely a show stopper.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How can something like this be ignored by cisco I have already
>>>>>>> reported
>>>>>>> this , lets see what happens.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ahmed
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11 Dec 2012, at 00:02, Steve Di Bias <sdibias_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ahmed, are you certain they are selling dumps like you suggest? If
>> so
>>>>>>> report them to Cisco
>> http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/le3/ccie/exam/violation_rules.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Ahmed <ahmedsalim_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've received the below email . This is both a cisco partner and
>> a
>>>>>>> training
>>>>>>>> institute. This looks highly highly suspicious. Can we/Cisco do
>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>> about this and stop this non-sense.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm forwarding it as received.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ahmed
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>>> From: S.P Menon <spmenon_at_emtech.ae>
>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 9:12 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: CCIE with Pass Guarantee
>>>>>>>> To: "S.P Menon" <spmenon_at_emtech.ae>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *CCIE R&S with Passing Guarantee*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is an 11 days Program. We need you to be present at the
>>>>>>>> institute
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>> these days before your exams. There would be 3 model exams that
>> we
>>>>>>> provide
>>>>>>>> and you will have to clear at least 2 exams for you to qualify
>> for
>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>> program. Once you qualify for this program, If you do not pass
>> the
>>>>>>>> CCIE
>>>>>>> Lab
>>>>>>>> Exam in the first attempt, we will reimburse you the Lab Exam fee
>>> of
>>>>>>>> USD
>>>>>>>> 1500.00 once you produce the confirmation that you have booked
>> the
>>>>>>>> CCIE
>>>>>>> Lab
>>>>>>>> Exam for the second time.****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Following is the daily plan of action for this program;****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **C **Day 1: Model Exam 1****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **C **Days 2 & 3: Practice based on feedback of Model Exam
>> 1.****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **C **Day 4: Model Exam 2****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **C **Days 5 & 6: Practice based on feedback of Model Exam
>> 2****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **C **Day 7: Model Exam 3.****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **C **Days 8, 9 & 10: Practice based on feedback of Model Exam
>>>>>>>> 3****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **C **Day 11: Final Discussions before CCIE Lab Exam based on
>> all
>>>>>>>> feedbacks & corrective actions taken.****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> These Model Exams cost AED 800.00 each and in case you are unable
>>> to
>>>>>>> clear
>>>>>>>> 2 out of 3, you may take extra lab exams by making extra payment
>> of
>>>>>>>> AED
>>>>>>>> 800.00 per lab.****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ** **
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * *
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best Regards,****
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * *
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Sreejith Menon
>>>>>>>> Key Account Manager - Corporate Training
>>>>>>>> Emtech Computer Institute
>>>>>>>> P.O. Box 28023, Dubai, UAE*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Cell: +97155 4526680
>>>>>>>> Tel: +9714 3583005 Ext: 302
>>>>>>>> Fax: +9714 3583321
>>>>>>>> URL: www.emtech.ae*
>>>>>>>>
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>> http://www.facebook.com/pages/Emtech-Group/129228590532746?ref=hl>
>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *EMTECH COMPUTER CO. LLC** / *P. O. Box : 28023, Dubai, U.A.E.
>> */*
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>>>>>>>> ****
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>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> U.A.E. */*Tel. : +971
>>>>>>>> 2 5592640 */* Fax : +971 2 5592641 */* Email* :
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>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>
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>> */*
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>>>>>>>> +971
>>>>>>>> 6 5659581 */* Fax : +971 6 5659582 */* Email* :
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>>>>>>>> ****
>>>>>>>>
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