Re: CCIE Service Providerv3 - General Question

Kenneth,

Knowing the basics is VERY important, besides some of the obvious subjects,
you have lots of other ones that Cisco has added to the cert, maybe
students don't need to take the actual CCNA-SP but a combo CCNA-CCNP SP
boot camp will work better as a foundation class to the CCIE-SP.
There are many benefits doing these classes through a Cisco Learning
Partner (CLP), and one of them is the fact that you can use CLCs.

On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Kenneth Ratliff <dayne_at_cluebat.net> wrote:

> On 10/26/12 7:29 PM, "Brian McGahan" <bmcgahan_at_ine.com> wrote:
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> >Right, there are obviously differences between the two OSes, both in
> >hardware and software, but for any true CCIE this should not be an issue.
> > The point of the CCIE is to obtain the level of expert in network
> >engineering. As an expert you should have a deep theoretical knowledge
> >of why and how different networking technologies work. OSPF is OSPF, BGP
> >is BGP, whether it's on IOS, IOS XR, NX-OS, JunOS, etc.
>
> Yeah, that's the kind of viewpoint that causes outages. When you start
> thinking like this, you tend to make some very, very bad assumptions. Of
> course, you might live you in a world where vendors never change options
> or defaults between platforms or even OS revisions on the same platform,
> never mind the consideration of interoperability.
>
> >
> >What I'm saying is that if you're a CCIE in R&S - an *expert* in Routing
> >& Switching technologies - and you need to start back at CCNA level for
> >the Service Provider track, then you have failed. You've failed yourself
> >as you've missed the entire point of CCIE to begin with.
>
> There's something about this I find to be fairly offensive, and quite a
> bit elitist. Do you honestly believe that achieving a CCIE means you never
> have to go back to basics? You never have to review? That you don't have
> that much to learn?
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> When you're dealing with an unfamiliar platform and a new OS, I think it's
> prudent to probably start with the basics. I'd expect a CCIE to be able to
> breeze through it, since it should simply be a matter of reconciling the
> differences with what you already know, but to say that you've failed
> yourself by making an attempt to cover all the bases? I think that's a bit
> too cavalier.
>
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