Re: OT: Ericsson SSR Router Vs Juniper MX series

Yeah I seen that, this is what were all fearing oh and weren't there faults on
switch fabric similar to cat os...

Alcatel (although being french) tried a similar trick with an r&d facility in
turkey no copyright laws you get the picture...

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BR
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On 15 Oct 2012, at 18:59, marc abel <marcabel_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I hope this doesn't come across a nationalistic or xenophobic but in regards
to Huwaei, are any of you uncomfortable having a Chinese company providing
your core infrastructure? I am sure all governments participate in state
sponsored hacking, but the Chinese just seem to take it to a whole different
level. Combined with the fact that Ren Zhengfei, the founder of the company,
served as an engineer in the Chinese army in the early 1980. Just last week
the US House Intelligence Committee called Huwaei a national security threat
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/09/us/us-panel-calls-huawei-and-zte-national-s
ecurity-threat.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0.
>
> -Marc Abel
> CCIE #35470
>
> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Tony Singh <mothafungla_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> Huwaei now Cisco's main competitor Cisco said themselves, I'm surprised  how
easy uk government have made it for them, Fujitsu Ericsson have had to come
out of their respective markets as they cant compete financially, Huwaei have
just announced a 1.3b deal in the uk which see's them opening and r&d plant in
London , they have also employed lords as advisors to their board - so to
sweeten the government!
>
> --
> BR
>
> Tony
>
> Sent from my iPhone on 3
>
> On 15 Oct 2012, at 18:06, Shaughn <maniac.smg_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Agreed
> >
> > It's a pity far too many operators these days put more emphasis on price
than on an actual like for like basis.
> >
> > The initial price might be low but those multi year services agreements
tend to make up for that
> >
> > Just saying
> >
> > CCIE # 23962 (SP)
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On 15 Oct 2012, at 6:35 PM, Cristian Ionescu <cristi.fx_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi guys
> >>
> >> I must say that not allways the price is everything. You must take in
consideration also the post-sales support.
> >> Of course is hard to beat huawei on prices. They are working with price
dumping and they want, if possible, the whole pie.
> >>
> >> Cristian
> >>
> >> On Oct 15, 2012, at 9:00, Muhammad Nasim <muhammad.nasim_at_gmail.com>
wrote:
> >>
> >>> If Price is the case, check Huwaie NE series, you will not be
disappointed,
> >>> I have seen big big ISPs here in middleeast who never in their DREAM
wanted
> >>> to go for Huwaie (you know right how we networking guys always think
Cisco,
> >>> Juniper,F5 , Brocade and others but NO HUWAIE). However after seeing
the
> >>> price difference they went for Huwai.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I know big deal of Smart City soluiton here in middleeast where Cisco
> >>> worked like crazy on prices but at the end HUWAI took the prices. I
really
> >>> doubt if anyone can beat HUWAI prices : )
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 5:29 AM, Routing Freak
<routingfreak_at_gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Gaurav, ASR's price is very expensive when compared to SSR or MX960.
> >>>>
> >>>> Joe, u got to be kidding me. no way that Huwaei bought Ericsson.
Ericsson
> >>>> acquired Redback and Redbacks product such as Smart Edge is now under
> >>>> Ercisson control
> >>>>
> >>>> and now Ericsson has built its own Multi Service Edge router called as
SSR
> >>>> ( Smart Service Router ) which is fast replacing all Cisco ASR 9k  and
> >>>> Junipers MX960 in the market nowadays.
> >>>>
> >>>> Becasue its price is low when compared with ASR or MX and its
performance
> >>>> and feature set and their fabric architecture is too good when compared
to
> >>>> ASR9k.
> >>>>
> >>>> I dont have much idea on MX960 fabric, but SSR fabric and throughput
is
> >>>> extrememly good when compared to ASR9k
> >>>>
> >>>> 140Gb/slot thorughput with 20 slots and three stage fabric with benes
> >>>> architecture separated by midplanes and 188 Packet switching engines
and
> >>>> dedicated Fabric Queues
> >>>>
> >>>> Overall the throughput of the box is 2Tb .
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> HI alberto
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks for ur suggestion, a quick question on MX960 . Whether MX960 has
te
> >>>> hardware forwarding rate for Subscriber traffic and has built in
Hardware
> >>>> QOS ( Txring and RXring ) for wach customer profile. Is it possible in
> >>>> MX960.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Marko
> >>>>
> >>>> What is ur suggestion on Redback based routers ? Redback is good old
> >>>> router. Now on the new age, do u see anyone knows about these SSR or
SE
> >>>> routers in the real time market .
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 7:39 AM, Alberto <albertofsantos_at_gmail.com>
wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi there,
> >>>>> I think u should at least test Ericsson's SSR, it is a mult service
> >>>> router
> >>>>> and it incorporate almost all smartedge featues and Based on what
i've
> >>>> seem
> >>>>> it will scale more than MX's and ASR's
> >>>>> Either in number of sessions or thrput
> >>>>>
> >>>>> BR/
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Enviado via iPhone
> >>>>> CCIE# 26648
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Em 14/10/2012, `s 13:50, Routing Freak <routingfreak_at_gmail.com>
> >>>> escreveu:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi all
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have a brand new customer site building up for their Edge
> >>>> functionality
> >>>>>> such as  Broadband Aggregation and Broadband Network Gateway ( BNG )
> >>>> for
> >>>>>> their  10000 + Customer base sites. I have a option to use either
> >>>>> Ericsson
> >>>>>> SSR router or Juniper MX 960 series router
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Can anyone suggest me which one to go for ? Either for Ericsson SSR
> >>>>> Router
> >>>>>> or junipers MX960.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Has anyone worked previously in Ericsson SSR router. I have seen a
very
> >>>>>> good feature set for BNG . Has anyone advice me on Ericsson router.
I
> >>>>> have
> >>>>>> seen that there is a good customer base for Ericsson in Broadband
> >>>> Network
> >>>>>> Aggregation and Broadband Network Gateway
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> And i have seen the Juniper MX960 performance and also their feature
> >>>> set
> >>>>>> for BNG is quite good. But MX Series is only used as a Metro
Ethernet
> >>>>>> Profile and also as a MPLS box exclusively and they dont have a very
> >>>> good
> >>>>>> performance on BNG set as far as the comments and feedback from
several
> >>>>>> peers and customers.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> So can anyone shed some light on both these routers and has anyone
has
> >>>>> some
> >>>>>> real time experience in working on these routers on BNG front.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Please do advice me on this .
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> THanks.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>