Re: OT: Is WAAS that bad?

Alexander,

I haven't worked with WAAS 5 yet, but I did earlier versions of WAAS, as
well as multiple versions of Riverbed as well as the Citrix accelerators.
 I always refer back to the Gartner report, and my own RFPs have borne out
the same results.

I'm not a fan of WCCP... it is a 4 letter word. My biggest problem is that
you have to be really careful on the platforms you choose. I found that
some "router" platforms switch from hardware switching to software
switching in the presence of WCCP, and like the Cisco 6500, they can't
handle it. Other platforms might not have such a hard time.

Travis,
You have to be careful with generalizations. I've found that COTS SQL can
actually do well, but many home grown apps are a problem. But, yes, FTP
and CIFS can have significant improvements.

Zack

On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 7:23 PM, Travis Niedens <niedentj_at_hotmail.com> wrote:

> Having worked with both WAAS and Riverbed, WAAS 5 brings Cisco back to a
> decent position - they have traditionally been behind on most things that
> Riverbed has done. Inline versus OOB - depends on the design / traffic. I
> personally am not a fan of having to use WCCP. With WCCP you need to make
> sure you have the proper rules on both ends to ensure symmetric
> optimization. With inline you need to worry about throughput and proper
> wiring for fail-open.
>
> Do keep in mind that there are certain protocols / traffic types that wan
> acceleration can and cannot optimize. An example of this would be SQL
> (Oracle, MSSQL, MySql). Both vendors claim a much lower optimization than
> say CIFS, FTP, etc. Dynamic content is difficult to optimize and you really
> just see the benefits with TCP optimization - even using the compression
> doesn't do all that much on text outputs from a DB call.
>
> T
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Alexander Lim
> Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2012 4:05 PM
> To: alexeim73_at_gmail.com
> Cc: Cisco certification
> Subject: Re: OT: Is WAAS that bad?
>
> Hi Alexei,
>
> Based on your exp, does SteelHead have problem with WCCP? And is its
> transparent mode working as good as tunnel mode?
>
> Regards,
> Alexander Lim
>
> On 1 Sep, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Alexei Monastyrnyi <alexeim73_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Comparing to Riverbed WAAS is absolutely behind... first hand
> > experience
> from rolling out and supporting both on large scale.
> >
> > A>
> >
> >
> > On 9/1/2012 3:29 PM, Alexander Lim wrote:
> >> Hi Experts,
> >>
> >> While looking for some comparison between Cisco WAAS and Riverbed
> SteelHead, I found this article
>
> http://m.networkworld.com/community/blog/cisco-finally-shows-waas-app-nav-ci
> s
> co-live-0. Is it telling the truth? Is Cisco WAAS really that bad? What do
> you guys use in your network?
> >>
> >> Thanks for sharing.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Alex
> >>
> >>
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