Re: Security Question

Not to throw fuel on the fire...With all do respect and any prejudging
aside, Marc does have a valid point of argument. I would expect a question
like that from an aspiring ccie not someone how already has a ccie. At the
minimum, you should have the capacity to look it up using Google or the
online doc cd. If I were to ask one of our in-house CCIEs that question,
knowing that I'm preparing for mine, they would tell me to go look it up.
I know as soon I read this question, the first thing that popped in my head
was, is this guy for real? I don't know how he prepared but the workbooks
that I've used beat his simple topic to death. Just saying....

On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 10:12 AM, marc edwards <renorider_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> I know how hard I have worked to come up short 3 times without using dumps.
> For that reason, I have forever remembered https port and several ways to
> block w/ACL or policy. I might not have the digits but I would never make
> that mistake. Sorry to pre judge. I am getting a taste for how many are
> getting by, now.
>
> On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:38 PM, sameer inam <i_sameer_at_hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Marc,
> > first of all YOU don't even know how much struggle and hard-work behind
> MY
> > CCIE .. it was 16 Months Journey which I never forget in my entire life
> ..
> > second thing its very Easy to comments on Others if they just made any
> > Stupid
> > Mistake ... it was my Mistake that I didn't mention full thing which I m
> > trying to achieve.. it was Poorly worded and Not clear.. Which created so
> > much
> > confusion ..
> > But i can see yours approach about if some one made Stupid mistake and
> > Thank
> > you very much Haroon and Sadiq for your understanding .
> > Thanks,Sameer
> >
> >
> > Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 10:52:22 -0400
> > Subject: Re: Security Question
> > From: itguy.pro_at_gmail.com
> > To: sadiqtanko_at_gmail.com
> > CC: marcabel_at_gmail.com; ccie.butcher_at_gmail.com; i_sameer_at_hotmail.com;
> > ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> >
> > Could be the lazy ccie syndrome? clearly, you need some competence to
> pass
> > the
> > exam, even if you cheat and I don't think sameer cheated or anything like
> > that
> > but this question is rather basic for a ccie.
> >
> > maybe access lists/filtering isn't sameer's cup of tea?
> > i've notice that questions coming from middle east/asia, etc. are poorly
> > worded and lack detail which results in confusion.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Sadiq Yakasai <sadiqtanko_at_gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Even that, it is absolutely not your call to accuse the doctor of
> cheating.
> > Yes, you can decide not to go to that doctor.
> >
> > Clearly, on Sameer's email, there is lack of clarify from his question. A
> > lot
> > of options exist to how filtering could be done on a router and yes, some
> > of
> > the techniques for filtering http are beyond the scope of R&S blueprint.
> > Truth
> > is, CCIE Butcher does not know what Sameer was/is asking for, before
> > jumping
> > to the conclusion that he has cheated to get his CCIE. I still stand that
> > this
> > is absolutely not acceptable!
> >
> >
> >
> > Ohh yeah, I also dont agree that a person can even cheat their way out of
> > the
> > lab exam without understand how to configure basic ACLs. Thats just a non
> > starter my friend.
> >
> >
> > Sadiq
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 3:22 PM, marc abel <marcabel_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > His prejudice was formed because a supposed CCIE came into this mailing
> > list
> > and asked a CCNA level question. I can understand if a CCIE doesn't know
> > everything and I make plenty mistakes myself but this is beyond that. A
> > CCIE
> > that can't write a basic access-list is a freaking joke! Don't try to
> hide
> > behind asking a "security" question either, all types of access-lists and
> > nbar
> > are fully covered and tested on the blueprint. There is absolutely zero
> > chance
> > someone could legitimately pass the R+S lab without this most basic level
> > of
> > understanding.
> >
> >
> >
> > This would be like a doctor asking where the tonsils are located. Would
> you
> > want to go to that doctor?
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 6:00 AM, Sadiq Yakasai <sadiqtanko_at_gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > CCIE Butcher,
> >
> >
> >
> > It is very serious and inconsiderate to accuse someone of cheating only
> >
> > based on a mere question he has asked on forum. If you are after trying
> to
> >
> > prove if he genuingly got his CCIE or not, your method is diffinitely not
> >
> > the right one. You should get the facts straight before discrediting
> >
> > someone's qualification, you know.
> >
> >
> >
> > Please take your prejudice elsewhere.
> >
> >
> >
> > Sadiq
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:10 AM, ccie.butcher <ccie.butcher_at_gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > > I am smelling a sweet fragerance of CCIECERT/PCL from him.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:47 AM, Haroon <itguy.pro_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
> > > > sameer, you are not doing that # justice.. google it up dood
> >
> > > >
> >
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> >
> > >
> >
> >
> http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/sec_data_plane/configuration/guide/sec_ur
> > l_filtering.html
> >
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> > > >
> >
> > > >
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> > > >
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> > > >
> >
> > > > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 1:46 AM, sameer inam <i_sameer_at_hotmail.com>
> >
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > >
> >
> > > > > Gents,
> >
> > > > > Can we block https traffic on router level ? if yes could you
> please
> >
> > > send
> >
> > > > > me
> >
> > > > > document
> >
> > > > > Appreciate your kind help as always
> >
> > > > > Sameer
> >
> > > > >
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