Re: [OSL | CCIE_RS] DocCD Reference Material

Appreciate the thoughts -- as I mentioned in my original email, I am
trying to reduce some of the brute-force memorization stuff that has
nothing to do with knowing the technologies, and everything to do with
memorizing a list. Namely, IP Protocol Numbers / IP Port Numbers /
ICMP Type Codes / Ethertype Codes. If I know that I can quickly
access a DocCD page that has those things, I don't have to spent the
cycles to try to memorize the list.

As far as searching PDFs, that has more to do with speed of finding
the right material vs. browsing through topics looking for the right
one. If I have a PDF, I can do a Ctrl-F, put in 'ip
aggregate-address' and be able to quickly hop to the syntax, usage
recommendations, etc. This is a quality-of-life consideration more
than anything. Same with saving to desktop -- clutter on my computer
workspace is something that I try to minimize, and keeping docs
perpetually open is something I try to avoid to better organize my
thoughts. Again, quality-of-life.

Look, I'm not trying to figure out how to study during the lab -- I'm
trying to take the most significant knowledge tool that we have during
the exam and make sure I fully understand how we can make use of it.
Wouldn't you want to fully understand the use of your gear before
going rappelling, for instance? Is that really so 'misguided'?

Keller Giacomarro
keller.g_at_gmail.com

On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 10:48 PM, J D'Silva <jasoncdsilva_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> No, I don't think they are useless. Only a little misguided ;)
>
> IMHO as you read through all the relevant parts of the DocCD (you are using
> the DocCD as study material, yes?) you will over time come to know what is
> where, and how to find it quickly again. I'm not suggesting that you will
> have the whole thing memorized, but having read a large portion of it
> myself, a couple times, I'd like to think that I have a fairly good grasp
> of what lies where. I dare say my DocCD-Fu is substantial.
>
> However, none of this will help me, or you, to pass the lab. Not really
> anyway. If you have to look up much more than one or two things in the
> DocCD that you have never configured before, or at least don't have the
> basics in memory, then you are sunk before you even start. You simply
> don't have enough time to be learning a half dozen technologies on the fly
> using the rather poor and basic examples that the DocCD provides.
>
> The reason why I think that your questions are misguided is because I think
> you are focusing on something that should be a secondary skill you take to
> the lab, and not a primary. Granted, I don't think it's quite as silly as
> asking how big the monitors are, or what make/model of keyboard you have
> available, but it's certainly not something you really need to worry about.
>
> My advice to you is to spend lots of time in the DocCD during your studies
> so that questions like this become moot.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Keller Giacomarro <keller.g_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> It matters because there is relevant reference material under
>> different products than the ones we're being tested on, like
>> firewalls. Please see my original email.
>>
>> Searching a PDF allows you to search an entire document, rather than
>> just the section you're viewing online. There is no way to view an
>> entire configuration guide online, as far as I am aware.
>>
>> And perhaps my questions are not quite as useless as you think they are. =P
>>
>> Keller Giacomarro
>> keller.g_at_gmail.com
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 10:29 PM, J D'Silva <jasoncdsilva_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> - are products not related to the lab (like firewalls and old IOS
>> >> releases) still available on the in-lab DocCD website?
>> >>
>> > Seriously, why does this matter? Are you planning on brushing up on your
>> > ACE while you do the R&S lab?
>> >
>> >
>> >> - can we open the pdf versions of DocCD documents? This really helps
>> >> since you can Control-F search them!
>> >>
>> > Hit Crtl-F in IE and see what happens (You only have IE during the lab).
>> >
>> >
>> >> - if we can access the pdfs, can they be saved to the desktop for
>> >> later reference, or would we have to keep them open in a web browser
>> >> throughout the lab?
>> >>
>> > Tabs are a wonderful thing.
>> >
>> >
>> >> - is the DocCD available for the troubleshooting portion too?
>> >>
>> > Yes
>> >
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