Re: Groupbuy for passccielab in India

Time to take names and start filtering.

Regards,

Marc

On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 6:09 AM, Ronnie Angello <ronnie.angello_at_gmail.com>wrote:

> Unbelievable
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 5, 2012, at 8:58 AM, Ovais Iqbal <ovais.iqball_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear Narbik,
> >
> > You passed the lab when almost everyone was passing :-) The real
> > labs were there. No matter how much you want to deny it, they were there.
> >
> > I
> > dont need to know you well enough to make this statement. Its just a
> matter of
> > fact. I am not saying you cheated, but you can never prove you didnt :-)
> >
> > No
> > offense narbik, this is the way it is
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
> > To: Ovais Iqbal
> > <ovais.iqball_at_yahoo.com>
> > Cc: Dale Shaw <dale.shaw_at_gmail.com>; Marko
> > Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com>; "ccielab_at_groupstudy.com"
> > <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2012 11:26 PM
> > Subject: Re:
> > Groupbuy for passccielab in India
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Iqbal,
> > Sir everything is ambiguous and
> > blurred now-a-days. Any one who passes the lab, cant prove that they
> didnt use
> > the real labs. Not even you
> >
> >
> > When i took the lab, we did not have real labs
> > or any other crap like that, so please do not EVEN mention that, not
> even as
> > an example, NEVER. You do not know me well enough.
> >
> > Have a good day sir.
> > On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Ovais Iqbal <ovais.iqball_at_yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > Dear Narbik,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Dont take it offensive but were you there with your
> > students 24/7 in their lives ? i mean how can you be so sure that they
> didnt
> > use any of the real labs out there ? just because they are hardworking
> and
> > they performed well in your bootcamp/mock labs still leaves the fear
> that what
> > if we fail the lab ? I am not saying your students (the one you
> mentioned)
> > cheated but sorry there is no way they can ever prove they didnt. Period.
> >>
> >>
> >> Now, as you mentioned that they will surely be spotted in interview or
> during
> > their job tasks ? Sorry but you are wrong here too. I know 3 engineers
> (my
> > fellow country man) whose resumes are by far most impressive then many so
> > called GENUINE CCIEs, and they know their stuff. One of the DUMPER (one
> of
> > these 3 guys) were interviewed by a pannel of 7 ppl (with couple ccie's
> among
> > them) and he got selected. But he was a dumper !! so where does your
> theory
> > goes now that he wont perform in the real life ? and he was also your
> student,
> > cant take his name for obvious reasons now.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sir everything is ambiguous
> > and blurred now-a-days. Any one who passes the lab, cantprove that they
> didnt
> > use the real labs. Not even you :-)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Guys, this discussion has been
> > raised so many times and everyone start jumping in, claiming (indirectly
> > almost) that they or their students never cheated or they dont even know
> that
> > real labs exist.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> No offense to anyone :-)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: Narbik Kocharians
> > <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
> >> To: Dale Shaw <dale.shaw_at_gmail.com>
> >> Cc: Marko
> > Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com>; "ccielab_at_groupstudy.com"
> > <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2012 8:42 AM
> >>
> >> Subject:
> > Re: Groupbuy for passccielab in India
> >>
> >>
> >> One of my students proved to me
> > that this guy is from India and he did
> >> cheat in his written exam, apparently
> > he proudly mentioned it in one of his
> >> posts in this particular forum.
> >>
> >> That
> > is bad, this can make anyone angry. But please don't be disappointed,
> >> there
> > are cheaters every where, but these guys do not last long, because
> >> sooner or
> > later they have to find a job and they will not be able to
> >> perform at a CCIE
> > level.
> >>
> >> Two of my students passed recently without cheating at all:
> >> *Kevin
> > Huff #**35841*
> >> *Amrik Singh #35824*".
> >>
> >>
> >> These guys worked very hard, if
> > you work hard you will succeed, you don't
> >> need to cheat at all.
> >>
> >> On Tue,
> > Jul 3, 2012 at 8:17 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> How
> > do you know that this guy is from India, China or Russia?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue,
> > Jul 3, 2012 at 7:50 PM,
> > Dale Shaw <dale.shaw_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi
> > Narbik,
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Jul 4, 2012 at 10:56 AM, Narbik Kocharians
> > <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>> Marko,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Don't be tired of
> > hearing the truth, first of all how do you know where
> >>>>> they are coming
> > from?
> >>>>
> >>>> Surely you're not suggesting that there is no pattern in the
> > origin of
> >>>> the names of people posting questions relating to dodgy CCIE
> >>>>
> > preparation material. Surely.
> >>>>
> >>>>> To name three countries with such
> > conviction, means
> >>>>> that you know for sure. Remember that you need to be
> > 100 percent sure,
> >>>>> besides, how do you know where they are being sold?
> > Just because the
> >>>> guys
> >>>>> name is Vikas it does not mean that it's being
> > sold in India, the person
> >>>>> might be Indian but he could be selling them
> > from another country.
> >>>>
> >>>> Maybe, but how long do you think the crooks
> > would stay in business if
> >>>> there is no demand? Kill the demand in their
> > biggest markets and you
> >>>> destroy the viability of their business.
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> > How do you differentiate an Indian name from a Pakistani name?
> >>>>
> >>>> Would
> > you be happier with "Indian subcontinent"?
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>> Dale
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> *Narbik Kocharians
> >>> *CCSI#30832, CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security)
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> >>
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> > Technical Instructor
> >>> YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!
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> > Partner
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
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> >> *CCSI#30832, CCIE# 12410
> > (R&S, SP, Security)
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