Re: Groupbuy for passccielab in India

I am sorry guys, i am totally green when it comes to things like that.
Let's go back to studying.

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 9:41 PM, Ryan Lindfield <ryan_at_westchasetech.com>wrote:

> Fun facts: (yes facts)
> It's coming from India.. It's available on f'ing eBay..
> If Cisco cared they would have different tests in different regions and
> more variety to the tests. Yes it's about making money. No they don't care
> enough to even try to prevent it. Yes the value of CCIE is diminishing, and
> yes this is why. There are tons of people passing, and many that are weak.
> An abundance of CCIE's with a chance that some don't know what they heck
> they are doing = less value no matter how you cut it.
>
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/CCIE-CISCO-RS-real-lab-work-book-routing-V4-2012-work-book-/261056929352?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_203&hash=item3cc8349e48
>
>
> Thank you drive-thru please.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Narbik Kocharians [mailto:narbikk_at_gmail.com]
> To: Marko Milivojevic [mailto:markom_at_ipexpert.com]
> Cc: Shaughn [mailto:maniac.smg_at_gmail.com], Muhammad Nasim [mailto:
> muhammad.nasim_at_gmail.com], ccie19804_at_gmail.com [mailto:ccie19804_at_gmail.com],
> <ciscovikas_at_gmail.com> [mailto:ciscovikas_at_gmail.com],
> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:ccielab_at_groupstudy.com]
> Sent: Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:56:29 -0400
> Subject: Re: Groupbuy for passccielab in India
>
>
> > Marko,
> >
> > Don't be tired of hearing the truth, first of all how do you know where
> > they are coming from? To name three countries with such conviction, means
> > that you know for sure. Remember that you need to be 100 percent sure,
> > besides, how do you know where they are being sold? Just because the guys
> > name is Vikas it does not mean that it's being sold in India, the person
> > might be Indian but he could be selling them from another country. How do
> > you differentiate an Indian name from a Pakistani name? How do you know
> > what's in the test and how do you know if Cisco has not changed the test
> > and these guys are buying a test that is no longer in use?
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Marko Milivojevic
> > <markom_at_ipexpert.com>wrote:
> >
> > > [ extremely angry e-mail please do not be personally, nationally or
> > > racially offended, whoever you are. this is me expressing my own
> opinion
> > > an not the opinions of owners, partners and or employees of IPexpert ]
> > >
> > > You know what... I'm kind of tired of hearing that Cisco doesn't have
> > > power in country X, Y or Z.
> > >
> > > Dumps are mostly coming from 3 countries: China, Russia and India.
> Cisco
> > > has testing centers in two, largest worldwide campus in one and major
> > > physical and corporate presence in all three.
> > >
> > > If Cisco *really* wanted to go after sellers of these dumps, they
> could.
> > > They are not. Go figure.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
> > >
> > > :: This message was sent from a mobile device. I apologize for errors
> and
> > > brevity. ::
> > >
> > > On Jul 3, 2012, at 19:26, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Also remember that Cisco may change the lab (Which is much easier)
> than
> > > go
> > > > after these guys, especially when they are in a country that Cisco
> has
> > no
> > > > jurisdiction, but they have to remember that Cisco can de-certify
> them
> > > when
> > > > they wish, because no matter where you are from, your certification
> is
> > > > given to you by Cisco.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Shaughn <maniac.smg_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> There is so much fail in his email that I just simply don't know
> where
> > > to
> > > >> start. Can I get the 2 mins of my life back ?
> > > >>
> > > >> I know how Cisco operates and they do not take things like this
> > lightly.
> > > >>
> > > >> CCIE # 23962 (SP)
> > > >>
> > > >> Sent from my iPhone
> > > >>
> > > >> On 03 Jul 2012, at 8:44 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Unbelievable.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Muhammad Nasim <
> > > >> muhammad.nasim_at_gmail.com>wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>> Sorry for typo
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> replaced team with time : )
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 8:05 PM, Muhammad Nasim <
> > > >> muhammad.nasim_at_gmail.com
> > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>> Dear All,
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I am going to start very very Controversial Debate here.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> I am asking for your forgiveness in advance if anyone will be
> hurt
> > by
> > > >>>>> that, nothing intentional
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Based on my experience, we did complain about CCIE Labs( real
> labs
> > > and
> > > >>>>> others) to CISCO with proofs we even forwarded user ids of the
> > people
> > > >> who
> > > >>>>> are involved in this DIRTY BUSINESS of this cheating to Cisco but
> > > CISCO
> > > >>>>> does not do anything. IMHO, Cisco Systems is the whole reason of
> > this
> > > >> on
> > > >>>>> going shortcut to Pass the CCIE exam, In my opinion (which is
> based
> > > on
> > > >>>>> facts) that Cisco Systems does not want it to stopped.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Please note that in this business Proctors (YES CISCO
> > Proctors),Cisco
> > > >>>>> employees and also CCIE Trainers are involved.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Of course by their are only few bad fishes are involved but it is
> > > shame
> > > >>>> on
> > > >>>>> cisco that once their top notched certification has declined in
> big
> > > >> team.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Note: Those who think that CCIE Labs are not real i think they
> are
> > > >>>>> mistaken, I know one institute where Trainer is only teaching
> CCIE
> > > Real
> > > >>>>> labs and people are getting passed. From my personal point of
> view
> > we
> > > >> did
> > > >>>>> pass these activities to Cisco with name and email address and
> other
> > > >>>>> details and no action were taken, it seems to me that Cisco is
> busy
> > > in
> > > >>>>> collecting 1400usd per attempt per candidate
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> No offense is intended nor will be to those who are working day
> and
> > > >> night
> > > >>>>> to get this dream certification and May Allah help them to pass
> > their
> > > >>>> CCIE
> > > >>>>> in flying colors.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Thanks & Best Regards
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 7:02 PM, ccie19804_at_gmail.com <
> > > >> ccie19804_at_gmail.com
> > > >>>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> ur email is a disgrace to the ccie community!
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> being a fellow indian and a delhi-ite, its even more embarassing
> > > >>>>>> "personally"
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> hope to interview u some day, u'll know ur real self and owe an
> > > abject
> > > >>>>>> appology tht day !!
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Swap
> > > >>>>>> #19804
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> > > >>>>>> Plaese ingore seplling mistkaes
> > > >>>>>> ___________________________
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>> On Jul 3, 2012, at 7:19, <ciscovikas_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Dear frnz, i have my lab exam on sept and i am looking forward
> to
> > > >>>>>> purchase
> > > >>>>>>> passccielab but since its cost is too high ($799), is there
> > anybody
> > > >>>> who
> > > >>>>>> is
> > > >>>>>>> interested in groupbuy of these labs especially anybody
> residing
> > in
> > > >>>>>> India near
> > > >>>>>>> Delhi area. Please reply ASAP or call me at 09868740425.
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Regards
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Vikas
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>>
> > > >>>>
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> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>
> _______________________________________________________________________
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> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> --
> > > >>>>> Muhammad Nasim
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> --
> > > >>>> Muhammad Nasim
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > _______________________________________________________________________
> > > >>>> Subscription information may be found at:
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> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --
> > > >>> *Narbik Kocharians
> > > >>> *CCSI#30832, CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security)
> > > >>> *www.MicronicsTraining.com* <http://www.micronicstraining.com/>
> > > >>> Sr. Technical Instructor
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> > > >>> A Cisco Learning Partner
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
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> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > _______________________________________________________________________
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> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > *Narbik Kocharians
> > > > *CCSI#30832, CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security)
> > > > *www.MicronicsTraining.com* <http://www.micronicstraining.com/>
> > > > Sr. Technical Instructor
> > > > YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!
> > > > A Cisco Learning Partner
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > *Narbik Kocharians
> > *CCSI#30832, CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security)
> > *www.MicronicsTraining.com* <http://www.micronicstraining.com/>
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*Narbik Kocharians
*CCSI#30832, CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security)
*www.MicronicsTraining.com* <http://www.micronicstraining.com/>
Sr. Technical Instructor
YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!
A Cisco Learning Partner
Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net