Re: Groupbuy for passccielab in India

Fun facts: (yes facts)
It's coming from India.. It's available on f'ing eBay..
If Cisco cared they would have different tests in different regions and more variety to the tests. Yes it's about making money. No they don't care enough to even try to prevent it. Yes the value of CCIE is diminishing, and yes this is why. There are tons of people passing, and many that are weak. An abundance of CCIE's with a chance that some don't know what they heck they are doing = less value no matter how you cut it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CCIE-CISCO-RS-real-lab-work-book-routing-V4-2012-work-book-/261056929352?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_203&hash=item3cc8349e48

Thank you drive-thru please.

----- Original Message -----
From: Narbik Kocharians [mailto:narbikk_at_gmail.com]
To: Marko Milivojevic [mailto:markom_at_ipexpert.com]
Cc: Shaughn [mailto:maniac.smg_at_gmail.com], Muhammad Nasim [mailto:muhammad.nasim_at_gmail.com], ccie19804_at_gmail.com [mailto:ccie19804_at_gmail.com], <ciscovikas_at_gmail.com> [mailto:ciscovikas_at_gmail.com], ccielab_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:ccielab_at_groupstudy.com]
Sent: Tue, 03 Jul 2012 20:56:29 -0400
Subject: Re: Groupbuy for passccielab in India

> Marko,
>
> Don't be tired of hearing the truth, first of all how do you know where
> they are coming from? To name three countries with such conviction, means
> that you know for sure. Remember that you need to be 100 percent sure,
> besides, how do you know where they are being sold? Just because the guys
> name is Vikas it does not mean that it's being sold in India, the person
> might be Indian but he could be selling them from another country. How do
> you differentiate an Indian name from a Pakistani name? How do you know
> what's in the test and how do you know if Cisco has not changed the test
> and these guys are buying a test that is no longer in use?
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Marko Milivojevic
> <markom_at_ipexpert.com>wrote:
>
> > [ extremely angry e-mail please do not be personally, nationally or
> > racially offended, whoever you are. this is me expressing my own opinion
> > an not the opinions of owners, partners and or employees of IPexpert ]
> >
> > You know what... I'm kind of tired of hearing that Cisco doesn't have
> > power in country X, Y or Z.
> >
> > Dumps are mostly coming from 3 countries: China, Russia and India. Cisco
> > has testing centers in two, largest worldwide campus in one and major
> > physical and corporate presence in all three.
> >
> > If Cisco *really* wanted to go after sellers of these dumps, they could.
> > They are not. Go figure.
> >
> > --
> > Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
> >
> > :: This message was sent from a mobile device. I apologize for errors and
> > brevity. ::
> >
> > On Jul 3, 2012, at 19:26, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Also remember that Cisco may change the lab (Which is much easier) than
> > go
> > > after these guys, especially when they are in a country that Cisco has
> no
> > > jurisdiction, but they have to remember that Cisco can de-certify them
> > when
> > > they wish, because no matter where you are from, your certification is
> > > given to you by Cisco.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Shaughn <maniac.smg_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> There is so much fail in his email that I just simply don't know where
> > to
> > >> start. Can I get the 2 mins of my life back ?
> > >>
> > >> I know how Cisco operates and they do not take things like this
> lightly.
> > >>
> > >> CCIE # 23962 (SP)
> > >>
> > >> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>
> > >> On 03 Jul 2012, at 8:44 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Unbelievable.
> > >>>
> > >>> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Muhammad Nasim <
> > >> muhammad.nasim_at_gmail.com>wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Sorry for typo
> > >>>>
> > >>>> replaced team with time : )
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 8:05 PM, Muhammad Nasim <
> > >> muhammad.nasim_at_gmail.com
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Dear All,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I am going to start very very Controversial Debate here.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I am asking for your forgiveness in advance if anyone will be hurt
> by
> > >>>>> that, nothing intentional
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Based on my experience, we did complain about CCIE Labs( real labs
> > and
> > >>>>> others) to CISCO with proofs we even forwarded user ids of the
> people
> > >> who
> > >>>>> are involved in this DIRTY BUSINESS of this cheating to Cisco but
> > CISCO
> > >>>>> does not do anything. IMHO, Cisco Systems is the whole reason of
> this
> > >> on
> > >>>>> going shortcut to Pass the CCIE exam, In my opinion (which is based
> > on
> > >>>>> facts) that Cisco Systems does not want it to stopped.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Please note that in this business Proctors (YES CISCO
> Proctors),Cisco
> > >>>>> employees and also CCIE Trainers are involved.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Of course by their are only few bad fishes are involved but it is
> > shame
> > >>>> on
> > >>>>> cisco that once their top notched certification has declined in big
> > >> team.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Note: Those who think that CCIE Labs are not real i think they are
> > >>>>> mistaken, I know one institute where Trainer is only teaching CCIE
> > Real
> > >>>>> labs and people are getting passed. From my personal point of view
> we
> > >> did
> > >>>>> pass these activities to Cisco with name and email address and other
> > >>>>> details and no action were taken, it seems to me that Cisco is busy
> > in
> > >>>>> collecting 1400usd per attempt per candidate
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> No offense is intended nor will be to those who are working day and
> > >> night
> > >>>>> to get this dream certification and May Allah help them to pass
> their
> > >>>> CCIE
> > >>>>> in flying colors.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thanks & Best Regards
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 7:02 PM, ccie19804_at_gmail.com <
> > >> ccie19804_at_gmail.com
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> ur email is a disgrace to the ccie community!
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> being a fellow indian and a delhi-ite, its even more embarassing
> > >>>>>> "personally"
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> hope to interview u some day, u'll know ur real self and owe an
> > abject
> > >>>>>> appology tht day !!
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Swap
> > >>>>>> #19804
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>>>>> Plaese ingore seplling mistkaes
> > >>>>>> ___________________________
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On Jul 3, 2012, at 7:19, <ciscovikas_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Dear frnz, i have my lab exam on sept and i am looking forward to
> > >>>>>> purchase
> > >>>>>>> passccielab but since its cost is too high ($799), is there
> anybody
> > >>>> who
> > >>>>>> is
> > >>>>>>> interested in groupbuy of these labs especially anybody residing
> in
> > >>>>>> India near
> > >>>>>>> Delhi area. Please reply ASAP or call me at 09868740425.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Regards
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Vikas
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>
> > _______________________________________________________________________
> > >>>>>>> Subscription information may be found at:
> > >>>>>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >> _______________________________________________________________________
> > >>>>>> Subscription information may be found at:
> > >>>>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> Muhammad Nasim
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Muhammad Nasim
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > _______________________________________________________________________
> > >>>> Subscription information may be found at:
> > >>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> *Narbik Kocharians
> > >>> *CCSI#30832, CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security)
> > >>> *www.MicronicsTraining.com* <http://www.micronicstraining.com/>
> > >>> Sr. Technical Instructor
> > >>> YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!
> > >>> A Cisco Learning Partner
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
> > >>>
> > >>>
> _______________________________________________________________________
> > >>> Subscription information may be found at:
> > >>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > *Narbik Kocharians
> > > *CCSI#30832, CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security)
> > > *www.MicronicsTraining.com* <http://www.micronicstraining.com/>
> > > Sr. Technical Instructor
> > > YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!
> > > A Cisco Learning Partner
> > >
> > >
> > > Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________________________________
> > > Subscription information may be found at:
> > > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> *Narbik Kocharians
> *CCSI#30832, CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security)
> *www.MicronicsTraining.com* <http://www.micronicstraining.com/>
> Sr. Technical Instructor
> YES! We take Cisco Learning Credits!
> A Cisco Learning Partner
>
>
> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
>
> _______________________________________________________________________
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Received on Wed Jul 04 2012 - 00:41:53 ART