Re: CCIE certification value.

Old guy tend to forget ;)

Best Regards,

Arista
On Jul 3, 2012 7:16 AM, "Scott Morris" <swm_at_emanon.com> wrote:

> What's wrong with the old guys? ;)
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> *Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
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> CCDE #2009::D, CCNP-Voice, JNCIE-SP #153, JNCIE-ER #102, CISSP, et al.
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> IPv6 Gold Certified Engineer, IPv6 Gold Certified Trainer
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> CCSI #21903, JNCI-SP, JNCI-ER
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> swm_at_emanon.com
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> Knowledge is power.
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> Power corrupts.
>
> Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......
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> On 7/2/12 7:59 AM, Joseph L. Brunner wrote:
> >> older the number, the more cautious I am of a candidate I'm
> interviewing...
> > Wiser words never spoken...
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> Jay McMickle
> > Sent: Monday, July 02, 2012 7:16 AM
> > To: shekhar sharma
> > Cc: Cisco certification
> > Subject: Re: CCIE certification value.
> >
> > I've seen twice replies coming in, and would like to offer my opinion as
> well.
> >
> > As a Technical Lead, as well as a hiring manager, I interview quit a few
> candidates. Most are CCIE's, or nearing it.
> >
> > I would like to mention that a CCIE isn't the ends to all means. It may
> mean that they once were great, but have moves into a role that doesn't
> engage those skills.
> >
> > Not to irritate any others here, but I'm sure some will admit, the older
> the number, the more cautious I am of a candidate I'm interviewing. I
> interviewed a double IE with a 9xxx number, that had forgotten BGP backdoor
> and BGP local-as (to help transition BGP numbers in our case).
> >
> > A skill/cert is like your windshield wipers. Don't use them and after a
> period of time, they won't work either. ;)
> >
> > It's all about the skillset that the Engineer is fresh with. I once
> heard that you are never as good as you once were, right before your
> passing of your IE (quote Narbik).
> >
> > To be honest, I passed 2 months ago, and I can't recall all of the
> frame-relay and OSPF tricks I learned as I don't work with either in my
> environment (MPLS, BGP, and EIGRP).
> >
> > Stay fresh on your skills and never become complaicent.
> >
> > Happy labbing.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jay McMickle- CCIE #35355 (R&S)
> > Sent from iJay
> >
> > On Jul 2, 2012, at 2:27 AM, shekhar sharma <shekhar.sharma21_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> First of all , before sharing anything , I want to say that I mean no
> >> offense to anybody or any certifications.
> >>
> >> Just want you people to share your views on CCIE certification value.
> >>
> >> I am very upset with my experience with 3 CCIE certified candidates
> >>
> >> I was interviewing 3 CCIE candidates for my company requirement,
> >> although I am not a CCIE ...am preparing for the LAB,just cleared the
> written.
> >>
> >> Out of three , two guys are CCIE(R&S) Lab certified and one is dual
> >> CCIE(R&S + Service Provider).
> >>
> >> The first candidate was average on theortical knowledge on various
> >> technologies that I didn't expect form a CCIE .But the main part is
> >> that he doesn't have any practical knowledge on the actual
> >> implementation in real world.
> >>
> >> The second candidate was below average on theortical knowledge ,not
> >> able to answer even few OSPF questions and forget about the practical
> >> part. He too was zero on it.
> >>
> >> Now the third candidate who is dual CCIE .He is working in Cisco. I
> >> was expecting a lot from him. He was good on the technical knowledge
> >> ...not as good as I expected......but again on the implementation part
> he was zero.
> >>
> >> Don't you guys think that Cisco certifications have become a
> >> ediucation buisness.I could be wrong in saying that but... i think the
> >> trend has changed now ....and everyone is running for just
> >> certification not becoming actual IE.
> >>
> >> And this is affecting a lot the value of CCIE certification .....
> >>
> >> Again I mean no offense to anyone who is preparing for CCIE...I am too
> >> preparing for LAB ,,, and some of the assumptions I have made could
> >> be wrong.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Shekhar
> >>
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