Re: CCIE certification value.

thanks venkat for taking this in positive way.....

Actually It was a really shock for me,,,,,,,,Still i am not able to digest
that stuff

On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 3:54 PM, venkat <venkat.elex_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Shekhar,
>
> I had similar experience and started not looking for certifications when
> starting an interview.. If a candidate can answer good number of questions
> and strong on protocols (yes, candidate may have to review their CCIE notes
> before attending an interview where they quote CCIE #logo) and his past
> networking experience, then we consider his/her certifications. And if he
> is CCIE then he is real gem and we offer what he deserves.
> We had bad experience with few candidates with CCNA/NP(or any other
> vendor certification for matter) who doesn't know very basic. But they can
> be easily isolated in interview. So, don't worry about few black sheep in
> market..
>
> Work hard for your CCIE# and keep refreshing technologies even after your
> CCIE#..
>
> Happy Studying,
> Venkat
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Jay McMickle <jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> I've seen twice replies coming in, and would like to offer my opinion as
>> well.
>>
>> As a Technical Lead, as well as a hiring manager, I interview quit a few
>> candidates. Most are CCIE's, or nearing it.
>>
>> I would like to mention that a CCIE isn't the ends to all means. It may
>> mean that they once were great, but have moves into a role that doesn't
>> engage those skills.
>>
>> Not to irritate any others here, but I'm sure some will admit, the older
>> the number, the more cautious I am of a candidate I'm interviewing. I
>> interviewed a double IE with a 9xxx number, that had forgotten BGP backdoor
>> and BGP local-as (to help transition BGP numbers in our case).
>>
>> A skill/cert is like your windshield wipers. Don't use them and after a
>> period of time, they won't work either. ;)
>>
>> It's all about the skillset that the Engineer is fresh with. I once heard
>> that you are never as good as you once were, right before your passing of
>> your IE (quote Narbik).
>>
>> To be honest, I passed 2 months ago, and I can't recall all of the
>> frame-relay and OSPF tricks I learned as I don't work with either in my
>> environment (MPLS, BGP, and EIGRP).
>>
>> Stay fresh on your skills and never become complaicent.
>>
>> Happy labbing.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jay McMickle- CCIE #35355 (R&S)
>> Sent from iJay
>>
>> On Jul 2, 2012, at 2:27 AM, shekhar sharma <shekhar.sharma21_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > First of all , before sharing anything , I want to say that I mean no
>> > offense to anybody or any certifications.
>> >
>> > Just want you people to share your views on CCIE certification value.
>> >
>> > I am very upset with my experience with 3 CCIE certified candidates
>> >
>> > I was interviewing 3 CCIE candidates for my company requirement,
>> although I
>> > am not a CCIE ...am preparing for the LAB,just cleared the written.
>> >
>> > Out of three , two guys are CCIE(R&S) Lab certified and one is dual
>> > CCIE(R&S + Service Provider).
>> >
>> > The first candidate was average on theortical knowledge on various
>> > technologies that I didn't expect form a CCIE .But the main part is
>> that he
>> > doesn't have any practical knowledge on the actual implementation in
>> real
>> > world.
>> >
>> > The second candidate was below average on theortical knowledge ,not
>> able to
>> > answer even few OSPF questions and forget about the practical part. He
>> too
>> > was zero on it.
>> >
>> > Now the third candidate who is dual CCIE .He is working in Cisco. I was
>> > expecting a lot from him. He was good on the technical knowledge ...not
>> as
>> > good as I expected......but again on the implementation part he was
>> zero.
>> >
>> > Don't you guys think that Cisco certifications have become a ediucation
>> > buisness.I could be wrong in saying that but... i think the trend has
>> > changed now ....and everyone is running for just certification not
>> becoming
>> > actual IE.
>> >
>> > And this is affecting a lot the value of CCIE certification .....
>> >
>> > Again I mean no offense to anyone who is preparing for CCIE...I am too
>> > preparing for LAB ,,, and some of the assumptions I have made could be
>> > wrong.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Shekhar
>> >
>> >
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