Re: CCIE certification value.

Gal's?! you mean there are girls on here?! Oh my!!

It is one of those things isn't it, there are people who obtain the CCIE as
padding for their CV, get the cert and forget the rest. There are people
who truly become experts and are amazing! and of course there are people
who cheat their way to the top...

I think that is the danger of any certification program, I have interviewed
CCNP's and CCNA's myself, some of whom couldn't tell me how to connect to a
device (its called a console cable people!!) yet when it came to their
performance on the job they were alright...

Does it affect the value of the certification - yes and no. The people like
yourself who care will look for people who have the experience and know
their stuff regardless of their level of certification, then there are
hiring HR managers or agents with no clue who will look only for the CCIE
number and hire anyway...

The thing that keeps coming up in all these conversations about the value
of the cert and the cheating is that it doesn't matter in the grand scheme
of things - as long as you watch out for yourself and make sure YOU are
doing the right thing, that you have the right motivation and reason for
obtaining the cert then you have done the right thing. If you go into an
interview against someone with dishonest intentions you are the person that
is going to get the job - not them!

Just my 2 rambling cents

On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 10:21 AM, John Pelletier <
john.pelletier_at_altima-group.com> wrote:

> Although there certainly is an increase in cheating for the most part the
> CCIEs that earned it via hands on experience and understanding
> the
> technologies are for the most part good network guys/gals.
> ________________________________
> From: shekhar sharma
> <shekhar.sharma21_at_gmail.com>
> To: Cisco certification <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 2, 2012 10:27 AM
> Subject: CCIE certification value.
>
> Hi
> All,
>
> First of all , before sharing anything , I want to say that I mean no
> offense to anybody or any certifications.
>
> Just want you people to share your
> views on CCIE certification value.
>
> I am very upset with my experience with 3
> CCIE certified candidates
>
> I was interviewing 3 CCIE candidates for my company
> requirement, although I
> am not a CCIE ...am preparing for the LAB,just
> cleared the written.
>
> Out of three , two guys are CCIE(R&S) Lab certified and
> one is dual
> CCIE(R&S + Service Provider).
>
> The first candidate was average on
> theortical knowledge on various
> technologies that I didn't expect form a CCIE
> .But the main part is that he
> doesn't have any practical knowledge on the
> actual implementation in real
> world.
>
> The second candidate was below average
> on theortical knowledge ,not able to
> answer even few OSPF questions and forget
> about the practical part. He too
> was zero on it.
>
> Now the third candidate who
> is dual CCIE .He is working in Cisco. I was
> expecting a lot from him. He was
> good on the technical knowledge ...not as
> good as I expected......but again on
> the implementation part he was zero.
>
> Don't you guys think that Cisco
> certifications have become a ediucation
> buisness.I could be wrong in saying
> that but... i think the trend has
> changed now ....and everyone is running for
> just certification not becoming
> actual IE.
>
> And this is affecting a lot the
> value of CCIE certification .....
>
> Again I mean no offense to anyone who is
> preparing for CCIE...I am too
> preparing for LAB ,,, and some of the
> assumptions I have made could be
> wrong.
>
> Regards,
> Shekhar
>
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