John,
O believe you misunderstood "server" in this context. Don was using
"server" to refer to "the switch configured as VTP server", not a PC
attached to the switch.
Keep in mind that there are no PCs and servers currently in the CCIE lab.
@Narbik Why do you say the root guard would be needed here?
-- Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 (SP R&S) Senior CCIE Instructor - IPexpert On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 1:44 PM, john matijevic <john.matijevic_at_gmail.com> wrote: > Good Afternoon Marc, > > Here is his original post: > > > " > Hi Guys, > > May be this is a silly one .. :) > > Its like this... Its a vtp server and client scenario. If the question says > the server has to be primary root for all the vlan what is the range I have > to choose? Is it 1-4094? or 1-1005? > > I know only transparent mode supports up to 4094 and server mode only up to > 1005. But, I have seen some workbooks have selected 1-4094 even though its > on server mode.Any harm by doing this?? > > Thank you all.. > > Don > > " > > > Its like this... Its a vtp server and client scenario. If the question says > the server has to be primary root for all the vlan what is the range I have > to choose? Is it 1-4094? or 1-1005? > > > He is asking about a particular question, this question could be > related to another question, we can't assume that it doesn't. > > > Here is your assumption: > The question tells him to make a switch (lets call it SW1) root for > all vlans. This is it, the one single sole requirement. Now this is > it, a pretty straight forward standard spanning tree question. Could > be MST, PVST, etc make no difference(lets assume pvst). > > This is incorrect his question is this: > the server has to be primary root for all the vlan what is the range I have > to choose? Is it 1-4094? or 1-1005? > > again is this a server with a switch inside, what is the scenerio. > > Lets let Don Reply instead of making assumptions of what he did or did > not assume. > Again big mistake to assume. > > Regards, > John > > > On 6/24/12, marc abel <marcabel_at_gmail.com> wrote: >> John, I'm not sure what is so vague about his question and the topology >> isn't really relevant. You could have 2 switches in your spanning-tree >> topology or 1000 it makes no difference. >> >> The question tells him to make a switch (lets call it SW1) root for all >> vlans. This is it, the one single sole requirement. Now this is it, a >> pretty straight forward standard spanning tree question. Could be MST, >> PVST, etc make no difference(lets assume pvst). >> >> Config SW1: >> >> spanning-tree mode pvst >> spanning-tree vlan ? >> >> Now the "?" is what his question revolves around. Which vlans should he >> include do you think? Remember the question states ALL vlans. >> >> Now the wrinkle to his question comes in because of VTP. Because his switch >> is a VTP server it only supports standard vlans 1-1005. So he has two >> options >> >> Option 1 - make his switch the root for only the vlans his switch supports >> >> spanning-tree vlan 1 - 1005 root primary >> >> Option 2 - make his switch the root for ALL vlans >> >> spanning-tree vlan 1 - 4094 root primary >> >> Which option would Choose? This is the root of his question. >> >> I would choose the second option, because the initial requirement did not >> ask us to make the distinction as to only the vlans the switch currently >> supports. The initial question simply asked us to make it root for ALL >> vlans, which the second one clearly does. >> >> On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 12:15 PM, john matijevic >> <john.matijevic_at_gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Good afternoon Jay, >>> >>> I wouldnt take anything for ganted and assume nothing. >>> >>> What Don is asking is important for eveyone on this list, so that we >>> can all try and learn and pass the exam. It's important to understand >>> what is it that Don is lacking that asks him to post a question here >>> on the forum. If the question is ambiguous, or if Don knows more about >>> the scenerio due to diagrams and configurations, he may just have a >>> specific piece that he is uncertain of, but has not given us all the >>> full details of the scenerio he is working with. >>> >>> Weather its a spanning-tree or VTP task who knows? Without more detail >>> information it be a mistake to assume anything. >>> >>> This is a dangerous mindset to have is to assume especially when it >>> comes to not only the CCIE lab exam but real world networking, and >>> working with customers/clients. >>> >>> Regards, >>> John >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 6/24/12, Jay McMickle <jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com> wrote: >>> > This just covers you, no matter what the situation. All VLAN's means >>> > all >>> > VLAN's, in any situation. >>> > >>> > Regards, >>> > Jay McMickle- CCIE #35355 (R&S) >>> > Sent from iJay >>> > >>> > On Jun 24, 2012, at 12:02 PM, john matijevic <john.matijevic_at_gmail.com> >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> >> Good Morning Jay, >>> >> >>> >> Please post on how you agree, also post where you got this question >>> from? >>> >> Also please be more specific on covers you if it moves to transparent. >>> >> >>> >> again vague, also please B post diagram and configs. >>> >> >>> >> This is a vague question by Don, I apologize to Marc, the question is >>> >> directed towards Don. >>> >> >>> >> Regards, >>> >> John >>> >> >>> >> On 6/24/12, Jay McMickle <jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>> I agree: 1-4094. This always covers you if it moves to transparent. >>> >>> >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Jay McMickle- CCIE #35355 (R&S) >>> >>> Sent from iJay >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jun 24, 2012, at 9:36 AM, marc abel <marcabel_at_gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> I would choose 1-4094. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 9:11 AM, Don Rajaratne >>> >>>> <don.rajaratne_at_gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>>> Hi Guys, >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> May be this is a silly one .. :) >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Its like this... Its a vtp server and client scenario. If the >>> question >>> >>>>> says >>> >>>>> the server has to be primary root for all the vlan what is the >>> >>>>> range >>> I >>> >>>>> have >>> >>>>> to choose? Is it 1-4094? or 1-1005? >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> I know only transparent mode supports up to 4094 and server mode >>> >>>>> only >>> >>>>> up >>> >>>>> to >>> >>>>> 1005. But, I have seen some workbooks have selected 1-4094 even >>> though >>> >>>>> its >>> >>>>> on server mode.Any harm by doing this?? >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Thank you all.. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Don >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> _______________________________________________________________________ >>> >>>>> Subscription information may be found at: >>> >>>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> -- >>> >>>> Marc Abel >>> >>>> CCIE #35470 >>> >>>> (Routing and Switching) >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________________________________ >>> >>>> Subscription information may be found at: >>> >>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________________________________ >>> >>> Subscription information may be found at: >>> >>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Marc Abel >> CCIE #35470 >> (Routing and Switching) > > > Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net > > _______________________________________________________________________ > Subscription information may be found at: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.netReceived on Sun Jun 24 2012 - 15:13:02 ART
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