RE: Studying for my fourth attempt

I do this 12 to 16 hours a day... I'm sitting in Internap Colocation RIGHT NOW
configuring a stack of 3750's and guess what ?

I didn't know OER was REALLY ON THE LAB... so I guess sometimes even though we
don't mean to break a secret we do...

PLEASE BECAREFUL

From: Steve Di Bias [mailto:sdibias_at_gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 9:25 PM
To: Joseph L. Brunner
Cc: Jazz Sunn; Leigh Finch; Cisco certification
Subject: Re: Studying for my fourth attempt

Joe I get it and I don't disagree with you but I don't think breaking the NDA
was the intent of the OP.
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Joseph L. Brunner
<joe_at_affirmedsystems.com<mailto:joe_at_affirmedsystems.com>> wrote:
Nope... I was raised to respect what other people can do that I haven't been
able to...

I don't need to come here to tell people what I have been asked to keep a
secret...

I wonder if you 2 have security clearances... hmmm... or will apply for them
since most of you guys seem to live in DC/VA anyway :)

Ever hear the expression "loose lips sink ships"...

If you can't keep a Cisco NDA, why would DISA or NIMA want you working on the
Nexus switch carrying satellite imagery of one the Grey's invasion fleet?

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com<mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com>
[mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com<mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com>] On Behalf Of
Steve Di Bias
Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 8:37 PM
To: Jazz Sunn
Cc: Leigh Finch; Cisco certification
Subject: Re: Studying for my fourth attempt

Actually Joe (although a smart man) acts like a 2 year old sometimes.
Stating you had OER is why he lashed out, probably best to not state that kind
of stuff but don't mind Joe, that's just his personality.

Good luck on your next attempt

On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Jazz Sunn
<jazzsunn_at_gmail.com<mailto:jazzsunn_at_gmail.com>> wrote:

> Leigh, lots of people react before thinking. Joesph's likely invested
> a large amount of time, engery and money for his number, and as a
> result I'm sure the first hint he or anyone else in his position gets
> that someone's attempting to devalue their credential, they lash out.
> I'm assuming this was triggered by you stating OER was a topic for your last
two attempts.
> However, it's clearly documented at 2.8 of the R&S blueprint that OER
> is a topic you are expected to master for the exam. I'm not sure you
> would have received the same had you said BGP gave you a hard time.
>
> I have a blog, lots of my friends do, lots of people on this list do.
> Writing about topics in an educational delivery model, blog or wiki,
> helps reinforce your understanding of it. I for one encourage you do
> to so, and look forward to reading some of your efforts.
>
> Good luck!
>
> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Leigh Finch
<leigh_at_leighfinch.net<mailto:leigh_at_leighfinch.net>> wrote:
>
> > At no point have I stated what was in my labs. My wiki is not
> > designed to be a dump site. I have not written about what was in my
> > labs. I'm
> covering
> > broad topics with areas I need to work on.
> >
> > I won't post about it again.
> >
> > Thanks, leigh
> >
> >
> > On 21/06/12 9:42 AM, Joseph L. Brunner wrote:
> >
> >> This should read - "After getting walked out by the Proctors or
> >> denied
> my
> >> lab booking for BREAKING THE NDA by divulging what I faced on my
> previous
> >> attempts".
> >>
> >> Please let's be professional and not turn this into a dump board -
> >> you don't need to tell anyone (except your priest, rabbi, imam,
> >> wife or
> >> attorney) what was on your CCIE lab exam.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Joe
> >> #19366
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com<mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com>
[mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com<mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com>] On
> >> Behalf Of Leigh Finch
> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2012 7:03 PM
> >> To: Cisco certification
> >> Subject: Studying for my fourth attempt
> >>
> >> Hi Everyone,
> >> I'm starting to ramp up for my fourth attempt. After getting
> >> destroyed
> by
> >> topics such as OER on my last 2 attempts. I've decided to start
> >> writing wiki articles for each topic of the blueprint to ensure, I
> >> know
> something
> >> about every topic.
> >>
> >> I won't be writing everything about a topic, but I'll try my best
> >> to be correct. Hopefully, if I'm confident enough to publish
> >> something, I
> know it
> >> well enough and I'm not cheating myself.
> >>
> >> The first article I've written about is NTP. The rest of the wiki
> >> is
> just
> >> a skeleton at the moment.
> >>
> >> http://leighfinch.net/cisco_**wiki/index.php/Network_Time_**Protoco
> >> l<
> http://leighfinch.net/cisco_wiki/index.php/Network_Time_Protocol>
> >>
> >> If you see something wrong please unicast me.
> >>
> >> Cheers, leigh
> >>
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