Agree with Marc, the definition of t-shooting would change and traditional wired approach would need mods, the rest would be identifying who's demarc
-- BR Tony Sent from my iPhone on 3 On 14 Jun 2012, at 06:54, marc edwards <renorider_at_gmail.com> wrote: > Software won't take away the need to know QoS and other CCIE level topics.I > would be surprised to see the foundation of everything under the > application layer disappear because a more powerful decision is making > routing decisions. I see your point about HA. V Motion across the world and > router lives every where. I think it's pretty cool but won't stop me from > pursuing CCIE. > > Regards, > > Marc > > On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 10:46 PM, Lindsay Hill <lindsay.k.hill_at_gmail.com>wrote: > >> Good engineers will always be needed. >> >> Read @cloudtoad's latest for a bit of a take on future directions >> >> http://packetpushers.net/it-is-dead-all-hail-systems-engineering/ >> >> >> On 14/06/2012, at 5:23 PM, marc edwards wrote: >> >>> I still think things will fall back on traditional protocols. What >> happens >>> when there is a failure on controller? The practices taken to to >>> traffic prioritization, path modification, dynamic discovery won't >>> evaporate. You can't ignore the potential and yes a network engineer's >> role >>> will change but it cout have a positive spin... >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 10:16 PM, sameer khan <khanzadap_at_hotmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>>> It seems cisco is jumping the bandwagon of SDN. But What the future hold >>>> for >>>> CCIE candidates ? Is it time to think about moving to software side ? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> >>>>> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 21:40:49 -0700 >>>>> From: bdennis_at_ine.com >>>>> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com >>>>> Subject: Re: Cisco One Article >>>>> >>>>> Quote: "Cisco also unveiled proof-of-concept controller software and >>>>> proof-of-concept OpenFlow v1.0 agent for its Catalyst 3750-X and 3560-X >>>>> switches for SDN research" >>>>> >>>>> But who uses 3750 and 3560's as a data center switch? They should have >>>>> started with something from the Nexus line. I guess it's at least a >>>> start. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Brian Dennis, CCIEx5 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP/Voice) >>>>> bdennis_at_ine.com >>>>> >>>>> Internetwork Expert, Inc. >>>>> http://www.INE.com >>>>> >>>>> On 06/13/2012 12:24 PM, Tony Singh wrote: >>>>>> >>>> >> http://www.networkworld.com/news/2012/061312-cisco-sdn-260138.html?hpg1=bn >>>>>> >>>>>> Some interesting ideas inc vxlan and software defined 3750x and 3560x >>>> for >>>> r&d, wish I was there >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> BR >>>>>> >>>>>> Tony >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2 Jun 2012, at 16:38, WorkerBee<ciscobee_at_gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, there are customers in AU/NZ running QFabric in production. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 7:45 PM, Radioactive Frog<pbhatkoti_at_gmail.com >>> >>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> Both vendor still won't support a third party SFP! what a insane. >>>>>>>> Is there anyone who've deployed Qfabric yet in production? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 7:07 PM, Joseph L. Brunner >>>>>>>> <joe_at_affirmedsystems.com>wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ok ok ok - juniper boys settle down - we hear ya - >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Here is a breath of sanity on qfabric I found >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.mentby.com/chris-evans-2/qfabric.html >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On >>>> Behalf >>>> Of >>>>>>>>> Karim Jamali >>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 4:39 AM >>>>>>>>> To: Alexander Halim; Cisco certification >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Article on Juniper QFabric >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Alexander, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I would say it is a much better architecture for various reasons. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1. With Nexus FEX, the N2K act as line cards& all traffic has to >> be >>>> sent >>>>>>>>> to the parent N5K whereas the QFnodes have a routing engine to >>>> decide >>>> where >>>>>>>>> to send the packet. >>>>>>>>> 2. There is only a single lookup across the whole system. There is >> a >>>>>>>>> Fabric Header that is added by the QFnodes to determine which >> QFnode >>>> the >>>>>>>>> packet should be sent to . >>>>>>>>> 3. The system can scale up to 6,144 10GE ports and still managed as >>>> a >>>>>>>>> single switch. >>>>>>>>> 4. Fully converged I/O in terms of connecting the SAN switches to >>>> the >>>>>>>>> QFnodes. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >> http://juniper.mwnewsroom.com/press-releases/deutsche-boerse-group-selects-ju >>>> niper-networks-to--nyse-jnpr-0816396 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >> http://newsroom.juniper.net/press-releases/bell-canada-selects-juniper-networ >>>> ks-single-tier--nyse-jnpr-0811293 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank You >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Alexander >>>> Halim<cisco.alexand_at_gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It seems similar to Nexus FEX but with much higher port density. >>>> But >>>>>>>>>> has anyone deployed QFabric in production? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>> Alexander Lim >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Jun 2, 2012, at 4:48 AM, Sukhjit Hayre >>>>>>>>>> <sukhjit.hayre_at_googlemail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>> http://m.zimbio.com/Cisco+Systems+Inc./articles/k8ulf-PRjAg/Juniper+QF >>>>>>>>>> abric+smashed+Cisco+dreams >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> BR >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Tony CCNP CCNA R&S JNCIS-SEC MCSE >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone on 3 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>> ____________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> ___ Subscription information may be found at: >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>> ______________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> _ Subscription information may be found at: >>>>>>>>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> KJ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Subscription information may be found at: >>>>>>>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Subscription information may be found at: >>>>>>>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Subscription information may be found at: >>>>>>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>> Subscription information may be found at: >>>>>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >>>>>> >>>>>> >> _______________________________________________________________________ >>>>>> Subscription information may be found at: >>>>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________________________________ >>>>> Subscription information may be found at: >>>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >>>> >>>> >>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________________________________ >>>> Subscription information may be found at: >>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >>> >>> >>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >>> >>> _______________________________________________________________________ >>> Subscription information may be found at: >>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html > > > Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net > > _______________________________________________________________________ > Subscription information may be found at: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.netReceived on Thu Jun 14 2012 - 08:01:06 ART
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