RE: Verifying a CCIE for a friend... spider senses tingling

Just as an FYI when posting ask that on the list your first initial and last
name or only last name be posted. This guy in the story
http://ccieflyer.com/2011-03-Eman.php I posted in the CCIE Flyer took the
real Kevin Hunt's name and number from the HOF list. Was using the number
for 5 years before the story we posted got around. Now the fake CCIE has
trouble explaining this story away and is getting what he deserves.
Stand tall and be proud but in the HOF list ask for some obscurity.

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
-Hammer-
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 9:59 AM
To: Sirhan Khan
Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: Verifying a CCIE for a friend... spider senses tingling

cciehof_at_gmail.com

-Hammer-

"I was a normal American nerd"
-Jack Herer

On 6/13/2012 8:26 AM, Sirhan Khan wrote:
> Thanks for the info Hammer but http://www.cciehof.com/ does not have
> contact details unless I am missing something .... ?
>
> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 2:30 PM, -Hammer- <bhmccie_at_gmail.com
> <mailto:bhmccie_at_gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Good point Dark Fiber.
>
> I understand some peoples view of privacy but a CCIE number ranks
> right up there with a doctorate or any other high end
> qualification (no, I don't want to have the pilots license debate
> again please) and should be verified prior to employment. If it
> wasn't, it should be taken up with HR. Remind them of that little
> search engine company...
>
> Regardless, to Dark Fibers point, number or not what your are
> looking for is competency. If the individual has shown a
> consistency in providing forward thinking solutions and helping
> resolve issues (not introduced by him/her) then he can walk around
> in a Novell shirt for all I care. If he has four CCIEs and a CCA
> and a JNCIE and is the president of his local CUG and still can't
> keep the network stable and keeps introducing issues then dump
> him. It's not a matter of numbers.
>
> Yes, HR has a right to ask for his credentials especially if it's
> on his resume or he has claimed he is a CCIE to improve his
> position within the company. If he's not, you can apply light
> discipline (you like the guy/gal) or outright termination (he/she
> is an idiot) based on the violation.
>
> No, in regards to his skill set, it doesn't matter whether he is
> one or not. The judgement should be based on performance.
>
> -Hammer-
>
> "I was a normal American nerd"
> -Jack Herer
>
>
>
>
> On 6/13/2012 7:05 AM, Dark Fiber wrote:
>
> Obviously there is an issue there :)
>
> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 6:53 AM, Humphrey
> Cheung<not5150_at_gmail.com <mailto:not5150_at_gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> As previously stated... he's not on that site. It was one
> of the
> first ones I checked.
>
> Humphrey
>
> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 3:41 AM, Jameeluddin Mohammed
> <jameeluddin.m_at_gmail.com <mailto:jameeluddin.m_at_gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Did you try to find him on CCIE Hall of Fame list
> available, which is listed
> based on the ccie verification tool.
> I could check many candidates status using just thier
> first, last name on
> this websites.
>
> http://www.cciehof.com/
> http://cciehof.weebly.com/
>
> -Jameel
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Humphrey
> Cheung<not5150_at_gmail.com <mailto:not5150_at_gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> I agree that people should be a bit careful with
> personal info.
>
> What's very strange is this guy has a full
> LinkedIn profile... name,
> university, past jobs, supervisor names, hundreds
> of connections,
> recommendations, everything is complete... except
> for a CCIE number.
>
> Humphrey
>
> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 2:46 AM, Sidney
> D'Souza<mail.sidney_at_gmail.com
> <mailto:mail.sidney_at_gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> I agree with Rob that personal info should be
> hidden considering the day
> and
> age we live in but hiding your educational
> qualifications from your
> employer
> is for me being too paranoid. Its like saying
> you ll have to take my
> word
> for it that I am a CCIE.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sid
>
> Nobody's really listening, until you make a
> mistake...
>
>
>
> From: me you [mailto:anunda19_at_gmail.com
> <mailto:anunda19_at_gmail.com>]
> Sent: 13 June 2012 11:02
> To: Sidney D'Souza
> Cc: Humphrey Cheung; Cisco certification
> Subject: Re: Verifying a CCIE for a friend...
> spider senses tingling
>
>
>
> Don't assume anything about him because he
> hides is personal info. I try
> to
> hide all my personal information because you
> never know when someone
> will
> use your personal info the wrong way.
>
>
>
> Rob
>
> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Sidney
> D'Souza<mail.sidney_at_gmail.com
> <mailto:mail.sidney_at_gmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> People take pride in displaying their CCIE# so
> your friend should have
> smelt
> something fishy when the guy refused to
> disclose his CCIE number. Just
> tell
> your friend to take it up with HR and demand
> his credentials. His number
> can
> be verified on the Cisco web site below.
>
>
> https://sso.cisco.com/autho/forms/CDClogin.html
>
> You will need to create a CCO ID before you
> can verify a Certification
> number.
>
> Regards,
> Sid
> Nobody's really listening, until you make a
> mistake...
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com
> <mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com>
> [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com
> <mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com>] On Behalf Of
> Humphrey Cheung
>
> Sent: 13 June 2012 09:03
> To: Cisco certification
> Subject: Verifying a CCIE for a friend...
> spider senses tingling
>
> This is a strange situation at my friend's
> company... wanted to get some
> ideas. I'm helping him verify the status of a
> supposed CCIE.
> I'll keep the names anonymous.
>
> Company hires new network admin
> Network has crashed dozens of times since the
> new guy has been hired
> Network
> admin claims to be a CCIE Network admin
> doesn't divulge a number...
> doesn't
> sign his emails with his number, doesn't have
> his number on LinkedIn
> Looking
> at the guy's job history, he's worked at big
> name company's...
> but generally lasts less than a year
> Quick Google/LinkedIn/Facebook/Twitter/etc
> search shows no hits for his
> name
> and anything saying CCIE or a number
> (permutations of first name and
> common
> nicknames were used in the search just in case
> we were missing anything)
> Since there's no number, can't use the Cisco
> verification tool because
> it
> requires a first/last name, cert type and
> number
>
> Any pointers on where else to look? I think
> we're about 90% sure this
> guy
> isn't a CCIE... but I think there's no actual
> smoking gun that says,
> "this
> first name and last name is not and never has
> been a CCIE"
>
> I'm at Cisco Live until Thursday evening.. if
> you want to unicast me.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Humphrey Cheung, CISSP #365719, CCNP, CCDP,
> CCIP
>
> @humphreycheung
>
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