Re: Verifying a CCIE for a friend... spider senses tingling

Thanks for the info Hammer but http://www.cciehof.com/ does not have
contact details unless I am missing something .... ?

On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 2:30 PM, -Hammer- <bhmccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> Good point Dark Fiber.
>
> I understand some peoples view of privacy but a CCIE number ranks right up
> there with a doctorate or any other high end qualification (no, I don't
> want to have the pilots license debate again please) and should be verified
> prior to employment. If it wasn't, it should be taken up with HR. Remind
> them of that little search engine company...
>
> Regardless, to Dark Fibers point, number or not what your are looking for
> is competency. If the individual has shown a consistency in providing
> forward thinking solutions and helping resolve issues (not introduced by
> him/her) then he can walk around in a Novell shirt for all I care. If he
> has four CCIEs and a CCA and a JNCIE and is the president of his local CUG
> and still can't keep the network stable and keeps introducing issues then
> dump him. It's not a matter of numbers.
>
> Yes, HR has a right to ask for his credentials especially if it's on his
> resume or he has claimed he is a CCIE to improve his position within the
> company. If he's not, you can apply light discipline (you like the guy/gal)
> or outright termination (he/she is an idiot) based on the violation.
>
> No, in regards to his skill set, it doesn't matter whether he is one or
> not. The judgement should be based on performance.
>
> -Hammer-
>
> "I was a normal American nerd"
> -Jack Herer
>
>
>
>
> On 6/13/2012 7:05 AM, Dark Fiber wrote:
>
>> Obviously there is an issue there :)
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 6:53 AM, Humphrey Cheung<not5150_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> As previously stated... he's not on that site. It was one of the
>>> first ones I checked.
>>>
>>> Humphrey
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 3:41 AM, Jameeluddin Mohammed
>>> <jameeluddin.m_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Did you try to find him on CCIE Hall of Fame list available, which is
>>>> listed
>>>> based on the ccie verification tool.
>>>> I could check many candidates status using just thier first, last name
>>>> on
>>>> this websites.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.cciehof.com/
>>>> http://cciehof.weebly.com/
>>>>
>>>> -Jameel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Humphrey Cheung<not5150_at_gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I agree that people should be a bit careful with personal info.
>>>>>
>>>>> What's very strange is this guy has a full LinkedIn profile... name,
>>>>> university, past jobs, supervisor names, hundreds of connections,
>>>>> recommendations, everything is complete... except for a CCIE number.
>>>>>
>>>>> Humphrey
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 2:46 AM, Sidney D'Souza<mail.sidney_at_gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree with Rob that personal info should be hidden considering the
>>>>>> day
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> age we live in but hiding your educational qualifications from your
>>>>>> employer
>>>>>> is for me being too paranoid. Its like saying you ll have to take my
>>>>>> word
>>>>>> for it that I am a CCIE.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sid
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nobody's really listening, until you make a mistake...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: me you [mailto:anunda19_at_gmail.com]
>>>>>> Sent: 13 June 2012 11:02
>>>>>> To: Sidney D'Souza
>>>>>> Cc: Humphrey Cheung; Cisco certification
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Verifying a CCIE for a friend... spider senses tingling
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't assume anything about him because he hides is personal info. I
>>>>>> try
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> hide all my personal information because you never know when someone
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> use your personal info the wrong way.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rob
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Sidney D'Souza<
>>>>>> mail.sidney_at_gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> People take pride in displaying their CCIE# so your friend should have
>>>>>> smelt
>>>>>> something fishy when the guy refused to disclose his CCIE number. Just
>>>>>> tell
>>>>>> your friend to take it up with HR and demand his credentials. His
>>>>>> number
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> be verified on the Cisco web site below.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://sso.cisco.com/autho/**forms/CDClogin.html<https://sso.cisco.com/autho/forms/CDClogin.html>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You will need to create a CCO ID before you can verify a Certification
>>>>>> number.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Sid
>>>>>> Nobody's really listening, until you make a mistake...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
>>>>>> Of
>>>>>> Humphrey Cheung
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent: 13 June 2012 09:03
>>>>>> To: Cisco certification
>>>>>> Subject: Verifying a CCIE for a friend... spider senses tingling
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is a strange situation at my friend's company... wanted to get
>>>>>> some
>>>>>> ideas. I'm helping him verify the status of a supposed CCIE.
>>>>>> I'll keep the names anonymous.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Company hires new network admin
>>>>>> Network has crashed dozens of times since the new guy has been hired
>>>>>> Network
>>>>>> admin claims to be a CCIE Network admin doesn't divulge a number...
>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>> sign his emails with his number, doesn't have his number on LinkedIn
>>>>>> Looking
>>>>>> at the guy's job history, he's worked at big name company's...
>>>>>> but generally lasts less than a year
>>>>>> Quick Google/LinkedIn/Facebook/**Twitter/etc search shows no hits
>>>>>> for his
>>>>>> name
>>>>>> and anything saying CCIE or a number (permutations of first name and
>>>>>> common
>>>>>> nicknames were used in the search just in case we were missing
>>>>>> anything)
>>>>>> Since there's no number, can't use the Cisco verification tool because
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> requires a first/last name, cert type and number
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any pointers on where else to look? I think we're about 90% sure this
>>>>>> guy
>>>>>> isn't a CCIE... but I think there's no actual smoking gun that says,
>>>>>> "this
>>>>>> first name and last name is not and never has been a CCIE"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm at Cisco Live until Thursday evening.. if you want to unicast me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Humphrey Cheung, CISSP #365719, CCNP, CCDP, CCIP
>>>>>>
>>>>>> @humphreycheung
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