Re: Verifying a CCIE for a friend... spider senses tingling

Good point Dark Fiber.

I understand some peoples view of privacy but a CCIE number ranks right
up there with a doctorate or any other high end qualification (no, I
don't want to have the pilots license debate again please) and should be
verified prior to employment. If it wasn't, it should be taken up with
HR. Remind them of that little search engine company...

Regardless, to Dark Fibers point, number or not what your are looking
for is competency. If the individual has shown a consistency in
providing forward thinking solutions and helping resolve issues (not
introduced by him/her) then he can walk around in a Novell shirt for all
I care. If he has four CCIEs and a CCA and a JNCIE and is the president
of his local CUG and still can't keep the network stable and keeps
introducing issues then dump him. It's not a matter of numbers.

Yes, HR has a right to ask for his credentials especially if it's on his
resume or he has claimed he is a CCIE to improve his position within the
company. If he's not, you can apply light discipline (you like the
guy/gal) or outright termination (he/she is an idiot) based on the
violation.

No, in regards to his skill set, it doesn't matter whether he is one or
not. The judgement should be based on performance.

-Hammer-

"I was a normal American nerd"
-Jack Herer

On 6/13/2012 7:05 AM, Dark Fiber wrote:
> Obviously there is an issue there :)
>
> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 6:53 AM, Humphrey Cheung<not5150_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> As previously stated... he's not on that site. It was one of the
>> first ones I checked.
>>
>> Humphrey
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 3:41 AM, Jameeluddin Mohammed
>> <jameeluddin.m_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Did you try to find him on CCIE Hall of Fame list available, which is listed
>>> based on the ccie verification tool.
>>> I could check many candidates status using just thier first, last name on
>>> this websites.
>>>
>>> http://www.cciehof.com/
>>> http://cciehof.weebly.com/
>>>
>>> -Jameel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 2:11 PM, Humphrey Cheung<not5150_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I agree that people should be a bit careful with personal info.
>>>>
>>>> What's very strange is this guy has a full LinkedIn profile... name,
>>>> university, past jobs, supervisor names, hundreds of connections,
>>>> recommendations, everything is complete... except for a CCIE number.
>>>>
>>>> Humphrey
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 2:46 AM, Sidney D'Souza<mail.sidney_at_gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> I agree with Rob that personal info should be hidden considering the day
>>>>> and
>>>>> age we live in but hiding your educational qualifications from your
>>>>> employer
>>>>> is for me being too paranoid. Its like saying you ll have to take my
>>>>> word
>>>>> for it that I am a CCIE.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sid
>>>>>
>>>>> Nobody's really listening, until you make a mistake...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: me you [mailto:anunda19_at_gmail.com]
>>>>> Sent: 13 June 2012 11:02
>>>>> To: Sidney D'Souza
>>>>> Cc: Humphrey Cheung; Cisco certification
>>>>> Subject: Re: Verifying a CCIE for a friend... spider senses tingling
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't assume anything about him because he hides is personal info. I try
>>>>> to
>>>>> hide all my personal information because you never know when someone
>>>>> will
>>>>> use your personal info the wrong way.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Rob
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Sidney D'Souza<mail.sidney_at_gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> People take pride in displaying their CCIE# so your friend should have
>>>>> smelt
>>>>> something fishy when the guy refused to disclose his CCIE number. Just
>>>>> tell
>>>>> your friend to take it up with HR and demand his credentials. His number
>>>>> can
>>>>> be verified on the Cisco web site below.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://sso.cisco.com/autho/forms/CDClogin.html
>>>>>
>>>>> You will need to create a CCO ID before you can verify a Certification
>>>>> number.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Sid
>>>>> Nobody's really listening, until you make a mistake...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>>>>> Humphrey Cheung
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent: 13 June 2012 09:03
>>>>> To: Cisco certification
>>>>> Subject: Verifying a CCIE for a friend... spider senses tingling
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a strange situation at my friend's company... wanted to get some
>>>>> ideas. I'm helping him verify the status of a supposed CCIE.
>>>>> I'll keep the names anonymous.
>>>>>
>>>>> Company hires new network admin
>>>>> Network has crashed dozens of times since the new guy has been hired
>>>>> Network
>>>>> admin claims to be a CCIE Network admin doesn't divulge a number...
>>>>> doesn't
>>>>> sign his emails with his number, doesn't have his number on LinkedIn
>>>>> Looking
>>>>> at the guy's job history, he's worked at big name company's...
>>>>> but generally lasts less than a year
>>>>> Quick Google/LinkedIn/Facebook/Twitter/etc search shows no hits for his
>>>>> name
>>>>> and anything saying CCIE or a number (permutations of first name and
>>>>> common
>>>>> nicknames were used in the search just in case we were missing anything)
>>>>> Since there's no number, can't use the Cisco verification tool because
>>>>> it
>>>>> requires a first/last name, cert type and number
>>>>>
>>>>> Any pointers on where else to look? I think we're about 90% sure this
>>>>> guy
>>>>> isn't a CCIE... but I think there's no actual smoking gun that says,
>>>>> "this
>>>>> first name and last name is not and never has been a CCIE"
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm at Cisco Live until Thursday evening.. if you want to unicast me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Humphrey Cheung, CISSP #365719, CCNP, CCDP, CCIP
>>>>>
>>>>> @humphreycheung
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