Re: bgp local preference

From: marc edwards <renorider_at_gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 20:35:30 -0700

sorry 8.6

On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 8:35 PM, marc edwards <renorider_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> If you are 360 subscriber, look at config lab 33 8.4. It sounds
> very similar.
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 8:28 PM, marc edwards <renorider_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On the topic of NDA. My only question to Cisco is how, being human, do
>> you expect us not to ask questions to mentors, colleagues, etc. about
>> things that just floored us and took $1,500?
>>
>> When my nuts get kicked, there is usually noise.
>>
>> Marc
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 8:17 PM, marc edwards <renorider_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I have seen labs in 360 (recently updated) that ironically go through
>>> a similar scenario that can answer this. To EXTEND my advice is to think of
>>> a way to make that attribut transitive. Sorry guess I have to opt out as
>>> well though I haven't seen this in a lab I sat.
>>>
>>> From a real world stand point, this is a very relavant topic. We have
>>> our own AS and are alway trying to find creative ways to balance the links.
>>> We tried AS prepend but our ISP's nix this when they advertise to other
>>> neighbors. They require us to use communities. Depending on the value, it
>>> will prepend AS number. That sounds like a fix but that is about as far as
>>> I go.
>>>
>>> :D
>>>
>>> Happy labbing
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Jay McMickle <jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm biting my tongue here.
>>>>
>>>> I think it's AMAZING that someone could go from CCNA to CCIE in a year
>>>> (especially without experience). Mixed feeling about this. Either way,
>>>> congrats!
>>>>
>>>> I'm a smart guy and it took me 4+ years from CCNA (recert) to CCNP to
>>>> CCIE.
>>>>
>>>> That's all.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Jay McMickle- CCIE #35355 (R&S)
>>>> Sent from iJay
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 7, 2012, at 6:43 AM, Radioactive Frog <pbhatkoti_at_gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > First to start with - Congratulation to Nitin for passing his lab
>>>> exam!
>>>> >
>>>> > Imran and Joe,
>>>> > surprised? there are smarter people on this planet.
>>>> >
>>>> > out of university , no experience and in less than 1 year - ccna,
>>>> ccnp and
>>>> > ccie!
>>>> >
>>>> > Phew! phew!
>>>> >
>>>> > You (including me) must have been having $hit brain cells. Studied for
>>>> > years and worked for years to get the #?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > - CCIE #34989 (Routing & Switchiing)
>>>> > - CISCO
>>>> > - License CSCO11919440
>>>> > - March 2012
>>>> > - CCNP
>>>> > - CISCO
>>>> > - License CSCO11919440
>>>> > - April 2011
>>>> > - CCNA
>>>> > - CISCO
>>>> > - License CSCO11919440
>>>> > - February 2011
>>>> > -
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > University of
>>>> > Pune<
>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/college/?eduSchool=13666&trk=prof-edu-school-nam
>>>> > e>
>>>> > BE, Electronics &
>>>> > Telecommunication<
>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/search?search=&keywords=Electronics
>>>> > +%26+Telecommunication&sortCriteria=R&keepFacets=true>
>>>> >
>>>> > 2008 2011
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > nitin shettigar
>>>> >
>>>> > CCIE #34989(R&S) Network Engineer
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Imran Ali <immrccie_at_gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> is ccie kid play ? dont get me wriong ....just my openion....a fact
>>>> that is
>>>> >> so wide spread.....on GS ...on forums....on cisco website...most of
>>>> ccie
>>>> >> vendor book...when you 'book' ccie lab exam...when you sit to write
>>>> >> qualifier exam...when you attend online sessions with marko or
>>>> >> brain....when you post on CLN...when you meet the proctor in
>>>> lab....when u
>>>> >> attempt ccna ccnp...
>>>> >>
>>>> >> to attempt the lab ...pass the qualifier..,,, with out knowing NDA
>>>> means
>>>> >> .....is surprising...
>>>> >>
>>>> >> this happens when some one (not this guy) ...breeth/lives/studies
>>>> with
>>>> >> D**s....
>>>> >>
>>>> >> his mind will never accept the fact that you can pass without
>>>> cheeting
>>>> >> too...becoz he is born and brought up with d**s....
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Narbik Kocharians <
>>>> narbikk_at_gmail.com
>>>> >>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >>> To all,
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> I honestly believe that before the start of the lab, the proctor
>>>> should *
>>>> >>> verbally* talk about the exam and NDA to all candidates, and get
>>>> them to
>>>> >>> sign a paper that states that they totally understood the NDA, that
>>>> way
>>>> >>> there won't be any doubts or misunderstanding.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Remember, the test is also conducted in NON-English speaking
>>>> countries
>>>> >> and
>>>> >>> to read and fully understand some of these NDA stuff you need to
>>>> have a
>>>> >> law
>>>> >>> degree. I think i will recommend this to Cisco.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Besides the language, the candidates are intimidated, excited and
>>>> nervous
>>>> >>> to begin with and sometimes we do not read the instructions.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Joe Astorino <
>>>> >> joeastorino1982_at_gmail.com
>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> Hi Natin,
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> If you truly did not understand that there is an NDA covering the
>>>> >>>> questions you encounter on the CCIE lab exam, then I offer my 100%
>>>> >>>> apology for what I said about you on list. I was angry and assumed
>>>> >>>> you were just cheating. I probably jumped the gun on that
>>>> statement,
>>>> >>>> so I apologize. You do need to be aware of these things though
>>>> >>>> because you can get in a lot of trouble with Cisco for violating an
>>>> >>>> NDA even if you don't has knowledge of it existing. It is like
>>>> >>>> getting pulled over for speeding when you "didn't see the sign".
>>>> It
>>>> >>>> doesn't matter, they are going to nail you anyways.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Best of luck with your studies
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:49 PM, nitin shettigar <
>>>> nitinbizzy_at_gmail.com
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>> I want to tell all that i did not know that the question asked by
>>>> me
>>>> >>> was
>>>> >>>>> inappropriate. If i had known this, i wouldn't have posted the
>>>> >> question
>>>> >>>> on
>>>> >>>>> Tshoot exam. I am sorry for that.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> i asked just to clarify my doubt, i did not find myself cheating
>>>> for
>>>> >>> this
>>>> >>>>> question as i did not clear the exam...
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Any ways sorry again for offending..
>>>> >>>>> won't post such question again...
>>>> >>>>> hope my apology is accepted..
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> thank u all for your help and making me know the about the NDA
>>>> >> policy..
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> nitin
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Paul Negron <
>>>> negron.paul_at_gmail.com
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Joe,
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Your credibility should not be at stake. You have helped plenty
>>>> of
>>>> >>>> people
>>>> >>>>>> on
>>>> >>>>>> this forum with your knowledge. I was not attacking, I was
>>>> >> defending.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> I'm sure you did not mean that a person was a piece of garbage.
>>>> >> Based
>>>> >>> on
>>>> >>>>>> your response, I think you wanted to say that the act of
>>>> cheating is
>>>> >>>>>> garbage...right?
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Next time I will unicast my feelings and hold the Group Post for
>>>> >>> facts.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Apologies to EVERYONE!!!
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Paul
>>>> >>>>>> --
>>>> >>>>>> Paul Negron
>>>> >>>>>> CCIE# 14856 CCSI# 22752
>>>> >>>>>> Senior Technical Instructor
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> From: Joe Astorino <joeastorino1982_at_gmail.com>
>>>> >>>>>>> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 23:23:13 -0400
>>>> >>>>>>> To: Paul Negron <negron.paul_at_gmail.com>, nitin shettigar
>>>> >>>>>>> <nitinbizzy_at_gmail.com>, Carlos Mendioroz <tron_at_huapi.ba.ar>,
>>>> >> Brian
>>>> >>>>>>> Dennis
>>>> >>>>>>> <bdennis_at_ine.com>, <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: bgp local preference
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Is this a joke? Everybody is thinking the same thing, I'm just
>>>> >>> saying
>>>> >>>>>>> it. You know what sets me off? Cheaters. Not sure why you are so
>>>> >>> upset
>>>> >>>>>>> and why you feel the need to personally attack me for sharing my
>>>> >>>>>>> opinion. It is pretty unbelievable that you can find time for
>>>> this
>>>> >>> but
>>>> >>>>>>> not to say anything at all about a clear NDA violation on the
>>>> >> list.
>>>> >>>>>>> Yeah, let's all just let that go and be nice. Guess what? I
>>>> don't
>>>> >>> work
>>>> >>>>>>> for a training vendor here and I am not forced to be nice.
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> Also, yeah I did not see the solution at first (and with all due
>>>> >>>>>>> respect not all the facts were given). It happens and I admit
>>>> >> when I
>>>> >>>>>>> am wrong or missed something. What does that have to do with
>>>> >> calling
>>>> >>>>>>> this guy out for cheating? Oh wait, NOTHING. You are calling me
>>>> >> out
>>>> >>> on
>>>> >>>>>>> list because you don't like my opinion...how is this at all
>>>> >>> different
>>>> >>>>>>> than what you are whining about?
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> You are welcome to disagree with my opinion and comments and I
>>>> >>>>>>> respect your right to do whatever you want to do, but please
>>>> don't
>>>> >>> sit
>>>> >>>>>>> here and attack my credibility because you are upset.
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>> On 3/13/12, Paul Negron <negron.paul_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>> This coming from the guy who said.
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> " Local preference is an attribute local to an AS so doing this
>>>> >>>> without
>>>> >>>>>>>> touching AS 200 would be IMPOSSIBLE."
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> YUP. Real Class Act.
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> Unicast it next time !! Tough Guy!!!
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> Sorry Marko, Brian....that comment set me off. I'll unicast it
>>>> >> next
>>>> >>>>>>>> time!
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> Paul
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>> --
>>>> >>>>>>>> Paul Negron
>>>> >>>>>>>> CCIE# 14856 CCSI# 22752
>>>> >>>>>>>> Senior Technical Instructor
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> From: Joe Astorino <joeastorino1982_at_gmail.com>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 22:12:23 -0400
>>>> >>>>>>>>> To: nitin shettigar <nitinbizzy_at_gmail.com>, Carlos Mendioroz
>>>> >>>>>>>>> <tron_at_huapi.ba.ar>, Paul Negron <negron.paul_at_gmail.com>,
>>>> Brian
>>>> >>>> Dennis
>>>> >>>>>>>>> <bdennis_at_ine.com>, <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: bgp local preference
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Nittin,
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> You are a real piece of garbage. Here is a concept - study and
>>>> >>> learn
>>>> >>>>>>>>> instead of cheating. What an epiphany!
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 3/13/12, nitin shettigar <nitinbizzy_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I had this issue in the CCIE tshoot exam.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So will the above solution valid for tshoot??
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you Markov and Denis for your efforts..
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> - Nitin
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:52 PM, Carlos Mendioroz <
>>>> >>>> tron_at_huapi.ba.ar>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Why. not?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Carlos Mendioroz <tron_at_acm.org>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -----Original message-----
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *From: *nitin shettigar <nitinbizzy_at_gmail.com>*
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> To: *Carlos G Mendioroz <tron_at_huapi.ba.ar>*
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Cc: *Paul Negron <negron.paul_at_gmail.com>, Brian Dennis
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <bdennis_at_ine.com>,
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com*
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: *Tue, 13 Mar 2012, 15:48:03 GMT+00:00
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: *Re: bgp local preference
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Is the solution provided applicable in CCIE exam??
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> - Nitin
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Carlos G Mendioroz
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <tron_at_huapi.ba.ar>wrote:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> but the other is ? :)
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, both have to be configured for confederation,
>>>> >> right ?
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Also, it might be the case that AS100 has a route-map with
>>>> >> some
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> logic that sets LP based on preset communities, so you just
>>>> >>> have
>>>> >>>> to
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> figure out which is the community you have to set, and
>>>> enable
>>>> >>> it.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -Carlos
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Negron @ 13/03/2012 03:14 -0300 dixit:
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> That's the only way I could think of this. But you would
>>>> >> have
>>>> >>> to
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> assume
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> other router was configured as a confederation already.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> He did not state that but I was not sure if it was a
>>>> >> challenge
>>>> >>>> or
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> he
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> really wanted to know how.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind of like the riddle..... you have to make 2 coins that
>>>> >>> equal
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 30
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> cents.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> One of them is not a Quarter.
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> --
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