Re: bgp local preference

On the topic of NDA. My only question to Cisco is how, being human, do you
expect us not to ask questions to mentors, colleagues, etc. about things
that just floored us and took $1,500?

When my nuts get kicked, there is usually noise.

Marc

On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 8:17 PM, marc edwards <renorider_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> I have seen labs in 360 (recently updated) that ironically go through
> a similar scenario that can answer this. To EXTEND my advice is to think of
> a way to make that attribut transitive. Sorry guess I have to opt out as
> well though I haven't seen this in a lab I sat.
>
> From a real world stand point, this is a very relavant topic. We have our
> own AS and are alway trying to find creative ways to balance the links. We
> tried AS prepend but our ISP's nix this when they advertise to other
> neighbors. They require us to use communities. Depending on the value, it
> will prepend AS number. That sounds like a fix but that is about as far as
> I go.
>
> :D
>
> Happy labbing
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Jay McMickle <jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> I'm biting my tongue here.
>>
>> I think it's AMAZING that someone could go from CCNA to CCIE in a year
>> (especially without experience). Mixed feeling about this. Either way,
>> congrats!
>>
>> I'm a smart guy and it took me 4+ years from CCNA (recert) to CCNP to
>> CCIE.
>>
>> That's all.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jay McMickle- CCIE #35355 (R&S)
>> Sent from iJay
>>
>> On Jun 7, 2012, at 6:43 AM, Radioactive Frog <pbhatkoti_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > First to start with - Congratulation to Nitin for passing his lab exam!
>> >
>> > Imran and Joe,
>> > surprised? there are smarter people on this planet.
>> >
>> > out of university , no experience and in less than 1 year - ccna, ccnp
>> and
>> > ccie!
>> >
>> > Phew! phew!
>> >
>> > You (including me) must have been having $hit brain cells. Studied for
>> > years and worked for years to get the #?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > - CCIE #34989 (Routing & Switchiing)
>> > - CISCO
>> > - License CSCO11919440
>> > - March 2012
>> > - CCNP
>> > - CISCO
>> > - License CSCO11919440
>> > - April 2011
>> > - CCNA
>> > - CISCO
>> > - License CSCO11919440
>> > - February 2011
>> > -
>> >
>> >
>> > University of
>> > Pune<
>> http://www.linkedin.com/college/?eduSchool=13666&trk=prof-edu-school-nam
>> > e>
>> > BE, Electronics &
>> > Telecommunication<
>> http://www.linkedin.com/search?search=&keywords=Electronics
>> > +%26+Telecommunication&sortCriteria=R&keepFacets=true>
>> >
>> > 2008 2011
>> >
>> >
>> > nitin shettigar
>> >
>> > CCIE #34989(R&S) Network Engineer
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Imran Ali <immrccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> is ccie kid play ? dont get me wriong ....just my openion....a fact
>> that is
>> >> so wide spread.....on GS ...on forums....on cisco website...most of
>> ccie
>> >> vendor book...when you 'book' ccie lab exam...when you sit to write
>> >> qualifier exam...when you attend online sessions with marko or
>> >> brain....when you post on CLN...when you meet the proctor in
>> lab....when u
>> >> attempt ccna ccnp...
>> >>
>> >> to attempt the lab ...pass the qualifier..,,, with out knowing NDA
>> means
>> >> .....is surprising...
>> >>
>> >> this happens when some one (not this guy) ...breeth/lives/studies with
>> >> D**s....
>> >>
>> >> his mind will never accept the fact that you can pass without cheeting
>> >> too...becoz he is born and brought up with d**s....
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> To all,
>> >>>
>> >>> I honestly believe that before the start of the lab, the proctor
>> should *
>> >>> verbally* talk about the exam and NDA to all candidates, and get them
>> to
>> >>> sign a paper that states that they totally understood the NDA, that
>> way
>> >>> there won't be any doubts or misunderstanding.
>> >>>
>> >>> Remember, the test is also conducted in NON-English speaking countries
>> >> and
>> >>> to read and fully understand some of these NDA stuff you need to have
>> a
>> >> law
>> >>> degree. I think i will recommend this to Cisco.
>> >>>
>> >>> Besides the language, the candidates are intimidated, excited and
>> nervous
>> >>> to begin with and sometimes we do not read the instructions.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 11:56 AM, Joe Astorino <
>> >> joeastorino1982_at_gmail.com
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Hi Natin,
>> >>>>
>> >>>> If you truly did not understand that there is an NDA covering the
>> >>>> questions you encounter on the CCIE lab exam, then I offer my 100%
>> >>>> apology for what I said about you on list. I was angry and assumed
>> >>>> you were just cheating. I probably jumped the gun on that statement,
>> >>>> so I apologize. You do need to be aware of these things though
>> >>>> because you can get in a lot of trouble with Cisco for violating an
>> >>>> NDA even if you don't has knowledge of it existing. It is like
>> >>>> getting pulled over for speeding when you "didn't see the sign". It
>> >>>> doesn't matter, they are going to nail you anyways.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Best of luck with your studies
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:49 PM, nitin shettigar <
>> nitinbizzy_at_gmail.com
>> >>>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>> I want to tell all that i did not know that the question asked by me
>> >>> was
>> >>>>> inappropriate. If i had known this, i wouldn't have posted the
>> >> question
>> >>>> on
>> >>>>> Tshoot exam. I am sorry for that.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> i asked just to clarify my doubt, i did not find myself cheating for
>> >>> this
>> >>>>> question as i did not clear the exam...
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Any ways sorry again for offending..
>> >>>>> won't post such question again...
>> >>>>> hope my apology is accepted..
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> thank u all for your help and making me know the about the NDA
>> >> policy..
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> nitin
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Paul Negron <
>> negron.paul_at_gmail.com
>> >>>
>> >>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Joe,
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Your credibility should not be at stake. You have helped plenty of
>> >>>> people
>> >>>>>> on
>> >>>>>> this forum with your knowledge. I was not attacking, I was
>> >> defending.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> I'm sure you did not mean that a person was a piece of garbage.
>> >> Based
>> >>> on
>> >>>>>> your response, I think you wanted to say that the act of cheating
>> is
>> >>>>>> garbage...right?
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Next time I will unicast my feelings and hold the Group Post for
>> >>> facts.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Apologies to EVERYONE!!!
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Paul
>> >>>>>> --
>> >>>>>> Paul Negron
>> >>>>>> CCIE# 14856 CCSI# 22752
>> >>>>>> Senior Technical Instructor
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> From: Joe Astorino <joeastorino1982_at_gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 23:23:13 -0400
>> >>>>>>> To: Paul Negron <negron.paul_at_gmail.com>, nitin shettigar
>> >>>>>>> <nitinbizzy_at_gmail.com>, Carlos Mendioroz <tron_at_huapi.ba.ar>,
>> >> Brian
>> >>>>>>> Dennis
>> >>>>>>> <bdennis_at_ine.com>, <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: bgp local preference
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Is this a joke? Everybody is thinking the same thing, I'm just
>> >>> saying
>> >>>>>>> it. You know what sets me off? Cheaters. Not sure why you are so
>> >>> upset
>> >>>>>>> and why you feel the need to personally attack me for sharing my
>> >>>>>>> opinion. It is pretty unbelievable that you can find time for this
>> >>> but
>> >>>>>>> not to say anything at all about a clear NDA violation on the
>> >> list.
>> >>>>>>> Yeah, let's all just let that go and be nice. Guess what? I don't
>> >>> work
>> >>>>>>> for a training vendor here and I am not forced to be nice.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Also, yeah I did not see the solution at first (and with all due
>> >>>>>>> respect not all the facts were given). It happens and I admit
>> >> when I
>> >>>>>>> am wrong or missed something. What does that have to do with
>> >> calling
>> >>>>>>> this guy out for cheating? Oh wait, NOTHING. You are calling me
>> >> out
>> >>> on
>> >>>>>>> list because you don't like my opinion...how is this at all
>> >>> different
>> >>>>>>> than what you are whining about?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> You are welcome to disagree with my opinion and comments and I
>> >>>>>>> respect your right to do whatever you want to do, but please don't
>> >>> sit
>> >>>>>>> here and attack my credibility because you are upset.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On 3/13/12, Paul Negron <negron.paul_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> This coming from the guy who said.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> " Local preference is an attribute local to an AS so doing this
>> >>>> without
>> >>>>>>>> touching AS 200 would be IMPOSSIBLE."
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> YUP. Real Class Act.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Unicast it next time !! Tough Guy!!!
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Sorry Marko, Brian....that comment set me off. I'll unicast it
>> >> next
>> >>>>>>>> time!
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Paul
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>> Paul Negron
>> >>>>>>>> CCIE# 14856 CCSI# 22752
>> >>>>>>>> Senior Technical Instructor
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> From: Joe Astorino <joeastorino1982_at_gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 22:12:23 -0400
>> >>>>>>>>> To: nitin shettigar <nitinbizzy_at_gmail.com>, Carlos Mendioroz
>> >>>>>>>>> <tron_at_huapi.ba.ar>, Paul Negron <negron.paul_at_gmail.com>, Brian
>> >>>> Dennis
>> >>>>>>>>> <bdennis_at_ine.com>, <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>> >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: bgp local preference
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Nittin,
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> You are a real piece of garbage. Here is a concept - study and
>> >>> learn
>> >>>>>>>>> instead of cheating. What an epiphany!
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> On 3/13/12, nitin shettigar <nitinbizzy_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>> I had this issue in the CCIE tshoot exam.
>> >>>>>>>>>> So will the above solution valid for tshoot??
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you Markov and Denis for your efforts..
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> - Nitin
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 10:52 PM, Carlos Mendioroz <
>> >>>> tron_at_huapi.ba.ar>
>> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Why. not?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> --
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Carlos Mendioroz <tron_at_acm.org>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> -----Original message-----
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> *From: *nitin shettigar <nitinbizzy_at_gmail.com>*
>> >>>>>>>>>>> To: *Carlos G Mendioroz <tron_at_huapi.ba.ar>*
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Cc: *Paul Negron <negron.paul_at_gmail.com>, Brian Dennis
>> >>>>>>>>>>> <bdennis_at_ine.com>,
>> >>>>>>>>>>> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com*
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: *Tue, 13 Mar 2012, 15:48:03 GMT+00:00
>> >>>>>>>>>>> *
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: *Re: bgp local preference
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> Is the solution provided applicable in CCIE exam??
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> - Nitin
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Carlos G Mendioroz
>> >>>>>>>>>>> <tron_at_huapi.ba.ar>wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> but the other is ? :)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Actually, both have to be configured for confederation,
>> >> right ?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Also, it might be the case that AS100 has a route-map with
>> >> some
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> logic that sets LP based on preset communities, so you just
>> >>> have
>> >>>> to
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> figure out which is the community you have to set, and enable
>> >>> it.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -Carlos
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Negron @ 13/03/2012 03:14 -0300 dixit:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> That's the only way I could think of this. But you would
>> >> have
>> >>> to
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> assume
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> other router was configured as a confederation already.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> He did not state that but I was not sure if it was a
>> >> challenge
>> >>>> or
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> he
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> really wanted to know how.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Kind of like the riddle..... you have to make 2 coins that
>> >>> equal
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 30
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> cents.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> One of them is not a Quarter.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> --
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