Re: CCIE Troubleshooting Rules

From: Stephen Lynch <slynch_at_absnt.com>
Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 10:45:22 -0400

Assuming a ticket has no restrictions, and its been said in this thread you
should never remove configuration unless absolutely necessary - what would
you do in the following scenario? Let's just say we need to ping 10.10.10.2
from a source of 10.10.10.1

A) Remove sequence 10
B) Add a specific ICMP permit statement before sequence 10 for a source
(10.10.10.1) and destination of (10.10.10.2)
C) If we remove sequence 10, this ACL no longer does anything so why not
just remove it?

Router# show access-lists
*Extended IP access list DENY_ICMP*
* 10 deny icmp any any*
* 20 permit ip any any*

By the way, vendors should really do a "Troubleshooting 101" video talking
about the restrictions and the best way to solve the tickets given certain
restrictions.

-SL

On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Maarten Vervoorn <mr.vervoorn_at_gmail.com>wrote:

> Not sure if I would reload the routers and backup the config. I didn't in
> my exam. You have 2 hours and 11 tickets. This means avarage 10min per
> ticket. Reloading and backup the config a set of routers will take out lots
> of time which you could spend in troubleshooting the dificult tickets.
> During my exam I had the following appoach:
>
> 1. Troubleshoot the issue with show commands
> 2. If still the problem is not solved I would go for debug
> 3. fix the configuration issue
> 4. Verify the issue is solved
> 5. Go to the next ticket
> 6. If finished before the 2 hour I would spend the time verifying the fixes
> of the tickets again.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Maarten Vervoorn
> CCIE#27144
>
> 2012/5/25 john matijevic <john.matijevic_at_gmail.com>
>
> > Hello Team,
> >
> > Good question on approach to Troubleshooting section:
> >
> > My strategy will be to fix config if there is error in order to fix a
> > particular section.
> > Then I will reload router or switch to make sure its still working
> > after I fix the problem on a router or set of routers, or switches.
> > Then I will save the config on that router and/or switches and any
> > other router or switch that I fixed.
> > I will use debugging as a troubleshooting tool, when I am fixed issue
> > I will turn off debugging when finished.
> > I will use notepad to copy config to so I can revert back to if
> > necessary if option of notepad is available.
> >
> > Regards
> > John
> >
> > On 5/25/12, Andrew Podosenin <andrew.podosenin_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I believe that they specifically state something like "fix without
> > disabling
> > > authentication". I think it is reasonable to ask the proctor in a
> > particular
> > > case.
> > >
> > > Here is a question that I have - do we care in the TS section about:
> > > 1. Saving periodically
> > > 2. Saving at the end
> > > 3. Turning off all debugging
> > >
> > > Per my proctor this is optional in the TS. I wonder if this is really
> the
> > > case.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: marc abel <marcabel_at_gmail.com>
> > > Sender: nobody_at_groupstudy.com
> > > Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 07:42:38
> > > To: Vincent Tay<vtay.75_at_gmail.com>
> > > Reply-To: marc abel <marcabel_at_gmail.com>
> > > Cc: Ccielab_at_groupstudy.com<ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> > > Subject: Re: CCIE Troubleshooting Rules
> > >
> > > You should fix them rather than remove any config. Only removed config
> if
> > > it is the only way to solve the ticket.
> > >
> > > On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 7:24 AM, Vincent Tay <vtay.75_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> I am wondering.
> > >>
> > >> Anyone knows the rules of troubleshooting for the CCIE R and S? Are we
> > >> allow to remove any misconfiguration statement such as access-list,
> > >> passwords or we can only amend and fix them to get through the
> section?
> > >>
> > >> Regards
> > >> Vincent Tay
> > >>
> > >>
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> > > --
> > > Marc Abel
> > > CCIE #35470
> > > (Routing and Switching)
> > >
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