Re: OT: is this true? I am worried about studying for CCIE R&S

My pleasure. I miss those days....

-Hammer-

"I was a normal American nerd"
-Jack Herer

On 5/24/2012 9:59 PM, Jay McMickle wrote:
> @Hammer-
> You had me at Duke Nukem. The good old days when we booted our Win95ver-a PC's from floppies and battled it out for our lunch hour! Oh, and that was over Token Ring in 1995. I'm still young, but I played with the older guys until I was uninvited from lunch after multiple smack downs.
>
> Again, you had me at Nukem!
>
> Thanks for the memories!
>
> Regards,
> Jay McMickle- CCIE #35355 (R&S)
> Sent from iJay
>
> On May 24, 2012, at 11:46 AM, Haroon<itguy.pro_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> agree with hammer.
>>
>> moreover, isn't network engineer already doing the app stuff like F5,
>> Antivirus and antispam management, AD comes into that as well, more so with
>> the MS System center, Asterisk, and with virtualization, stuff like server
>> provisioning, VDI is something that many engineers are already doing, I
>> know i am.
>>
>> even the app space need the *network* to run on so i don't think that
>> eliminates the engineer, it just changes the title, and many will just end
>> up doing the "network" part as well as configuration of it with support of
>> the applications.
>>
>> CLI is just another tool and skill which may help you land a job than
>> someone who doesn't know have it or is app centric!
>> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Scott Morris<swm_at_emanon.com> wrote:
>>
>>> You may have lost more of them at "Duke Nukem" rather than IPX. :)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
>>>
>>> CCDE #2009::D, CCNP-Voice, JNCIE-SP #153, JNCIE-ER #102, CISSP, et al.
>>>
>>> IPv6 Gold Certified Engineer, IPv6 Gold Certified Trainer
>>>
>>> CCSI #21903, JNCI-SP, JNCI-ER
>>>
>>> swm_at_emanon.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Knowledge is power.
>>>
>>> Power corrupts.
>>>
>>> Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/24/12 8:08 AM, -Hammer- wrote:
>>>> Seriously?
>>>>
>>>> Yes. Openflow is pretty cool. So is fabric path. So is OTV. So is blah
>>>> blah blah. I'm not going to be the guy who says "openflow is a fad"
>>>> because I don't think that's true. But I am pretty sure my job is safe
>>>> even at an escalated adoption rate of the technology. The reason us
>>>> "CLI monkeys" make a little more than an MCSE or an RHCE or a Desktop
>>>> Support Representative is because we understand the technology. And
>>>> that understanding of a complicated world is what separates us. That's
>>>> why you get called in to troubleshoot other peoples problems. Other
>>>> folks who are "experts" in their field. That's why you laugh when a
>>>> server admin calls himself an "architect" on his sig line. That's why
>>>> you are the go to guy. It's not whether you've adopted a particular
>>>> technology or not. It's whether you are a competent resource who
>>>> UNDERSTANDS the technology. Routers and Switches probably won't go
>>>> away before you retire. They may change roles and protocols but I
>>>> doubt they will go away. How else can we play Duke Nukem over IPX?
>>>>
>>>> PS: If you don't understand that last sentence I forgive you for being
>>>> young. IPX is a protocol. Not a training company.
>>>>
>>>> -Hammer-
>>>>
>>>> "I was a normal American nerd"
>>>> -Jack Herer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 5/24/2012 4:05 AM, MSDP multicast wrote:
>>>>> Tony - what did you get out of this blog post?
>>>>> I don't know if I am going on the right path here doing R&S.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 5:42 AM, Tony Singh<mothafungla_at_gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Great blog man!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> BR
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tony CCNP CCNA R&S JNCIS-SEC MCSEu get
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone on 3
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 23 May 2012, at 13:25, MSDP multicast<multicast100_at_gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hello people,
>>>>>>> Looks like someone posted about next big move in networking world.
>>>>>>> My question is, should I study R&S or I should move into application
>>>>>> world
>>>>>>> more?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> http://bhatkoti.com/2012/05/23/why-should-a-network-engineer-move-into-an-app-space/
>>>>>>> Thank you people.
>>>>>>>
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