Re: OT: is this true? I am worried about studying for CCIE R&S

@Hammer-
You had me at Duke Nukem. The good old days when we booted our Win95ver-a PC's from floppies and battled it out for our lunch hour! Oh, and that was over Token Ring in 1995. I'm still young, but I played with the older guys until I was uninvited from lunch after multiple smack downs.

Again, you had me at Nukem!

Thanks for the memories!

Regards,
Jay McMickle- CCIE #35355 (R&S)
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On May 24, 2012, at 11:46 AM, Haroon <itguy.pro_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> agree with hammer.
>
> moreover, isn't network engineer already doing the app stuff like F5,
> Antivirus and antispam management, AD comes into that as well, more so with
> the MS System center, Asterisk, and with virtualization, stuff like server
> provisioning, VDI is something that many engineers are already doing, I
> know i am.
>
> even the app space need the *network* to run on so i don't think that
> eliminates the engineer, it just changes the title, and many will just end
> up doing the "network" part as well as configuration of it with support of
> the applications.
>
> CLI is just another tool and skill which may help you land a job than
> someone who doesn't know have it or is app centric!
> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Scott Morris <swm_at_emanon.com> wrote:
>
>> You may have lost more of them at "Duke Nukem" rather than IPX. :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) #4713,
>>
>> CCDE #2009::D, CCNP-Voice, JNCIE-SP #153, JNCIE-ER #102, CISSP, et al.
>>
>> IPv6 Gold Certified Engineer, IPv6 Gold Certified Trainer
>>
>> CCSI #21903, JNCI-SP, JNCI-ER
>>
>> swm_at_emanon.com
>>
>>
>> Knowledge is power.
>>
>> Power corrupts.
>>
>> Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......
>>
>>
>> On 5/24/12 8:08 AM, -Hammer- wrote:
>>> Seriously?
>>>
>>> Yes. Openflow is pretty cool. So is fabric path. So is OTV. So is blah
>>> blah blah. I'm not going to be the guy who says "openflow is a fad"
>>> because I don't think that's true. But I am pretty sure my job is safe
>>> even at an escalated adoption rate of the technology. The reason us
>>> "CLI monkeys" make a little more than an MCSE or an RHCE or a Desktop
>>> Support Representative is because we understand the technology. And
>>> that understanding of a complicated world is what separates us. That's
>>> why you get called in to troubleshoot other peoples problems. Other
>>> folks who are "experts" in their field. That's why you laugh when a
>>> server admin calls himself an "architect" on his sig line. That's why
>>> you are the go to guy. It's not whether you've adopted a particular
>>> technology or not. It's whether you are a competent resource who
>>> UNDERSTANDS the technology. Routers and Switches probably won't go
>>> away before you retire. They may change roles and protocols but I
>>> doubt they will go away. How else can we play Duke Nukem over IPX?
>>>
>>> PS: If you don't understand that last sentence I forgive you for being
>>> young. IPX is a protocol. Not a training company.
>>>
>>> -Hammer-
>>>
>>> "I was a normal American nerd"
>>> -Jack Herer
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/24/2012 4:05 AM, MSDP multicast wrote:
>>>> Tony - what did you get out of this blog post?
>>>> I don't know if I am going on the right path here doing R&S.
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 5:42 AM, Tony Singh<mothafungla_at_gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Great blog man!
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> BR
>>>>>
>>>>> Tony CCNP CCNA R&S JNCIS-SEC MCSEu get
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone on 3
>>>>>
>>>>> On 23 May 2012, at 13:25, MSDP multicast<multicast100_at_gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> hello people,
>>>>>> Looks like someone posted about next big move in networking world.
>>>>>> My question is, should I study R&S or I should move into application
>>>>> world
>>>>>> more?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>> http://bhatkoti.com/2012/05/23/why-should-a-network-engineer-move-into-an-app-space/
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you people.
>>>>>>
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