Re: OT:MPLS Across US

Right there with you. I have been down that road with Multicast MPLS...ugly

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Joe Astorino <joeastorino1982_at_gmail.com>wrote:

> Yeah, I hear you. What is nice about a huge player like an AT&T is that
> they are ALMOST everywhere, and their MPLS VPN design is already based on a
> regional model. Without doing anything special, I already have regional
> default routing and things in place just because of the way their global
> network is designed. Hooking into another telco in places they don't have a
> POP is easier for them too. They already had agreements in place with CT
> and many other customers doing the same thing.
>
> Also don't expect any overly useful information from the carrier...I had
> to basically figure out their network design by playing around and asking a
> lot of questions to the right people. Never trust sales guys and have
> conference calls with the right technical people before you sign anything :
> )
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Dennis Worth <dennis.worth_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Joe,
>>
>> Thanks for that heads up . These are things that always concern me. Level
>> 3 is the SP I am looking to at this time, but the draw back I see is if you
>> go with a different carrier all together than that means another POP into
>> headquarters. Don't want to have 3 or 4 MPLS cloud POPS based of Region,
>> that could be torture.
>>
>> thanks,
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Joe Astorino <joeastorino1982_at_gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> My recent experiences have been with AT&T. They provide MPLS L3 VPN
>>> services across the USA and many many other countries, and offer a variety
>>> of QoS options. Specifically, they offer a 4 queue and 6 queue system,
>>> with a variety of different queueing options depending on what you want to
>>> do. NOW...the company I implemented this for, also does business in China
>>> and Hong Kong where AT&T could not get me a circuit.
>>>
>>> AT&T works with China Telecom in that situation. Basically, there is an
>>> ISP to ISP connection (redundant connections actually and you get to pick
>>> the IP addressing on that link as it must use inter-AS MPLS option A).
>>> That portion of it all works fine, but the QoS is where it sucks. China
>>> Telecom in this situation only supports currently a 4 queue system. AT&T
>>> supports either 4 or 6 ...so if you actually wanted to use 6 queues, you
>>> are kind of stuck unless you want to do a bunch of manual tedious
>>> remarkings. Because of this, I implemented a 4 queue system across the
>>> board.
>>>
>>> Make sure you are aware of all these things before you pull the trigger
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Ronnie Angello <
>>> ronnie.angello_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> My experience in the past with an in-country/continental WAN was with
>>>> Verizon Business. We had nearly 1500 sites across the US, and their PIP
>>>> service was available everywhere. Canada was a different story, and I
>>>> agree that it took a bit of effort to work with the other provider,
>>>> specifically around provisioning and QoS... Don't expect it to be
>>>> inline
>>>> with your standard configurations.
>>>>
>>>> I would imagine that AT&T and Sprint would have the same capabilities
>>>> domestically, but I'm not exactly sure.
>>>>
>>>> Ronnie
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Dennis Worth <dennis.worth_at_gmail.com
>>>> >wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Group,
>>>> >
>>>> > I have an OT ? for you. Which carriers do MPLS (single carrier)
>>>> across the
>>>> > US(coast to coast)? also what are the impacts today with having a
>>>> > compounded based MPLS with a carrier handing off to another carrier
>>>> with
>>>> > regards to provisioning and QOS?
>>>> >
>>>> > websites with info would be great and or personal experiences.
>>>> >
>>>> > Thank you all!
>>>> >
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>>
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>
> Joe Astorino
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