RE: OER/PfR at lab exam?

Hi , Yes that's right the IOS image in the exam is 12.4(15T) , the state will not turn into the INPOLICY unless there is a Parent route in the routing table either via BGP or using static routes

BR,

> CC: renorider_at_gmail.com; marcelodemetrio_at_me.com; seyeabimbolu_at_gmail.com; bdennis_at_ine.com; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> From: jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: OER/PfR at lab exam?
> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 08:10:46 -0500
> To: eng_mssk_at_hotmail.com
>
> I got excited when I saw this, but I see at the bottom that it was introduced in 12.4.24T. 12.4.10 doesn't support the pfr command-
> Please explain as I'm seeing conflicting information as to your verbiage below.
>
> How is the lab IOS version in need of PIRO if it's not supported? Maybe I labbed too late night night and just dense this morning- dunno. ;)
>
> Regards,
> Jay McMickle- CCNP,CCSP,CCDP
> Sent from iJay
>
> On Apr 18, 2012, at 3:12 AM, Mohammad Khalil <eng_mssk_at_hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi all , i just want to share some information i have regarding OER/PfR
> > In the lab exam , the IOS version installed on the routers are 12.4(15T) , which requires what so called PIRO to be implemented , please check the below link
> > http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/pfr/configuration/guide/pfr-piro.html
> >
> > BR,
> >
> >> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2012 07:32:48 -0700
> >> Subject: Re: OER/PfR at lab exam?
> >> From: renorider_at_gmail.com
> >> To: marcelodemetrio_at_me.com
> >> CC: eng_mssk_at_hotmail.com; seyeabimbolu_at_gmail.com; bdennis_at_ine.com; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> >>
> >> I found a good primer for this on ciscolivevirtual.com under 2009-2010
> >> sessions BRKRST-2361 : An Introduction to Performance Routing.
> >>
> >> I uploaded slidedeck to
> >> https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B6ODb-lpMS4fTEJTNUZmeFMzUEU
> >>
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> >>
> >> Thanks again Brian. Overwhelming intrest in this topic. Your session will
> >> equal audiences at a Metallica concert. We are looking forward to it!
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Marc
> >>
> >> On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Marcelo Demetrio
> >> <marcelodemetrio_at_me.com>wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello Brian,
> >>>
> >>> I am very interested, if is possible, please include me.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Marcelo Demetrio
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 15/04/2012, at 02:26, Mohammad Khalil <eng_mssk_at_hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> In as well
> >>>>
> >>>> BR,
> >>>> Mohammad
> >>>>
> >>>>> Subject: Re: OER/PfR at lab exam?
> >>>>> CC: bdennis_at_ine.com; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> >>>>> From: seyeabimbolu_at_gmail.com
> >>>>> Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 17:05:47 +0000
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hello Brian,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I am interested as well.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> Oluseye
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sent from my BlackBerry. wireless handheld.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: Mohammad Mousa <mohd-mousa_at_hotmail.com>
> >>>>> Sender: nobody_at_groupstudy.com
> >>>>> Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 18:19:49
> >>>>> To: Alexander Halim<cisco.alexand_at_gmail.com>
> >>>>> Reply-To: Mohammad Mousa <mohd-mousa_at_hotmail.com>
> >>>>> Cc: Bryan Stair<uptown.ccie_at_gmail.com>; Ben Hughes<bhughes_at_imc.net.au>;
> >>> Brian Dennis<bdennis_at_ine.com>; Joe Sanchez<marco207p_at_gmail.com>;
> >>> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com<ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>; marc abel<
> >>> marcabel_at_gmail.com>; Jay McMickle<jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com>
> >>>>> Subject: Re: OER/PfR at lab exam?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi Brian,
> >>>>> Kindly Include me as well
> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Apr 14, 2012, at 6:09 PM, "Alexander Halim" <cisco.alexand_at_gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Please include me as well.
> >>>>>> BTW, none of us use PfR in production right?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>> Alexander Halim
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Apr 14, 2012, at 9:03 PM, Bryan Stair <uptown.ccie_at_gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Please include me on the training
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thx
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Ben Hughes <bhughes_at_imc.net.au>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Awesome, thanks Brian! I'm also in agreement it would be great to
> >>> have a
> >>>>>>>> more advanced class. I'd love to review the many pitfalls and
> >>> quirks you
> >>>>>>>> previously mentioned. I've been trying for days to get my routers
> >>> to force
> >>>>>>>> traffic based on DSCP through a particular BR to no avail. It would
> >>> be
> >>>>>>>> great to cover BRs connected with a GRE tunnel etc.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Looking forward to it!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> cheers,
> >>>>>>>> Ben.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> From: Jay McMickle <jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com<mailto:
> >>> jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com>>
> >>>>>>>> Reply-To: Jay McMickle <jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com<mailto:
> >>>>>>>> jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com>>
> >>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2012 10:56:00 -0500
> >>>>>>>> To: marc abel <marcabel_at_gmail.com<mailto:marcabel_at_gmail.com>>
> >>>>>>>> Cc: Brian Dennis <bdennis_at_ine.com<mailto:bdennis_at_ine.com>>, Joe
> >>> Sanchez <
> >>>>>>>> marco207p_at_gmail.com<mailto:marco207p_at_gmail.com>>, "
> >>> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> >>>>>>>> <mailto:ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com<mailto:
> >>>>>>>> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>>
> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: OER/PfR at lab exam?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Agreed. I'm in!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>> Jay McMickle- CCNP,CCSP,CCDP
> >>>>>>>> Sent from iJay
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Apr 12, 2012, at 9:10 AM, marc abel <marcabel_at_gmail.com<mailto:
> >>>>>>>> marcabel_at_gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> One suggestion, let's make this a semi advanced class. There are
> >>> plenty of
> >>>>>>>> resources out there that show how to setup a master and borders. I
> >>> think
> >>>>>>>> this group is clamoring for something a little deeper. Can we make
> >>> knowing
> >>>>>>>> the basics a pre-req?
> >>>>>>>> -Marc
> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Brian Dennis <bdennis_at_ine.com
> >>> <mailto:
> >>>>>>>> bdennis_at_ine.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> I would be more than happy to do an online presentation covering
> >>> PfR. I'm
> >>>>>>>> flying to NYC from Dubai tonight for a private CCIE bootcamp next
> >>> week and
> >>>>>>>> then I have a public bootcamp in Washington DC after that so next
> >>> weekend
> >>>>>>>> I'll be available. So if you all can be flexible we can try for next
> >>>>>>>> weekend. We can use our new streaming solution so that it's all
> >>> recorded
> >>>>>>>> in a format that everyone can download and view for the people who
> >>> can't
> >>>>>>>> attend.
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> Brian Dennis, CCIEx5 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP/**Voice)
> >>>>>>>> bdennis_at_ine.com<mailto:bdennis_at_ine.com>
> >>>>>>>> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> >>>>>>>> http://www.INE.com
> >>>>>>>> On 04/12/2012 03:35 AM, Joe Sanchez wrote:
> >>>>>>>> How about this.... Someone (expert) on the subject of OER put
> >>> together a
> >>>>>>>> webex and let it roll.. I'm willing to sacrifice a Saturday and a
> >>> little $
> >>>>>>>> to get it rolling.
> >>>>>>>> It seems a lot of people are lacking confidence in the OER realm,
> >>>>>>>> including me... So what do you say?
> >>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>> Joe Sanchez
> >>>>>>>> On Apr 11, 2012, at 4:13 PM, Imran Ali<immrccie_at_gmail.com<mailto:
> >>>>>>>> immrccie_at_gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Brian ,
> >>>>>>>> A blog containing the link will be appreciated by all. However if
> >>> you
> >>>>>>>> want to unicast when master piece get ready , please include me in
> >>> cc.
> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Brian Dennis<bdennis_at_ine.com
> >>> <mailto:
> >>>>>>>> bdennis_at_ine.com>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Since PfR/OER is relatively new to the lab exam it's not covered as
> >>> much
> >>>>>>>> as a topic like OSPF, MPLS VPNs, etc in most products. That being
> >>> said
> >>>>>>>> I
> >>>>>>>> currently spend at least one full day covering it in my 10 Day R&S
> >>>>>>>> bootcamps and I cover it in-depth as getting 5 or 6 points on it in
> >>> the
> >>>>>>>> lab
> >>>>>>>> exam can be the difference between passing or failing. I start from
> >>> the
> >>>>>>>> basics (i.e. load balancing, PfR static& BGP route manipulation,
> >>> etc )
> >>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>> work into the more advanced configurations (i.e. link groups, fast
> >>> mode,
> >>>>>>>> jitter probes, delay, PBR based upon DSCP, using PfR for sink holing
> >>>>>>>> traffic, etc).
> >>>>>>>> To be honest there are a ton of strange, for lack of a better term,
> >>>>>>>> quirks
> >>>>>>>> with PfR that can cause trouble when someone is just starting out
> >>>>>>>> learning
> >>>>>>>> PfR. So although it may seem like a good idea for me to just
> >>> throwing
> >>>>>>>> you
> >>>>>>>> the labs from my bootcamp, that isn't going to be what you really
> >>> need
> >>>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>> truly understand it. It would be like saying to me "Hey Brian I
> >>> want to
> >>>>>>>> learn MPLS VPNs" and I say "Here are a couple labs. Good luck!".
> >>> Think
> >>>>>>>> that will work? No.
> >>>>>>>> Here is just a few example of quirks with PfR: An access-list used
> >>>>>>>> with a
> >>>>>>>> learn list can not match IP addresses but an access-list with a
> >>> oer-map
> >>>>>>>> should match IP addresses. When using fast mode with a learn list
> >>> you
> >>>>>>>> need
> >>>>>>>> to use a prefix list when also matching with an access-list. Or how
> >>> to
> >>>>>>>> configure PfR to do PBR unconditionally without any OOP condition,
> >>> etc,
> >>>>>>>> etc, etc.
> >>>>>>>> As I mentioned there are a lot of pitfalls with learning PfR due to
> >>> the
> >>>>>>>> fact it's a newer technology and went through a lot of changes in IOS
> >>>>>>>> 12.4T. PfR is an awesome technology and I personally love it but it
> >>>>>>>> can be
> >>>>>>>> complicated to learn for anyone starting out. I would venture to say
> >>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>> is it one of the most complicated of any technology currently
> >>> covered in
> >>>>>>>> the lab exam. The documentation is 33% bigger than the OSPF
> >>>>>>>> documentation
> >>>>>>>> and it's only getting larger with QoS being added and PfR domains in
> >>>>>>>> future
> >>>>>>>> releases.
> >>>>>>>> I started a blog series on it (http://goo.gl/yH0ip) but have since
> >>>>>>>> decided to just write a whole document covering PfR as the topic is
> >>> just
> >>>>>>>> too big to cover in a few blog posts. I currently have over 100
> >>> pages
> >>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>> I'm hoping to release it around the end of the month. If anyone
> >>> would
> >>>>>>>> like
> >>>>>>>> a copy, free of charge of course, just let me know.
> >>>>>>>> Lastly if anyone wants to come see me cover PfR in person free of
> >>> charge
> >>>>>>>> just contact INE sales and ask to audit one day of my bootcamp. It's
> >>>>>>>> normally covered on the 8th day of my bootcamp. I'm in Dubai this
> >>> week
> >>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>> covered PfR yesterday and have a private bootcamp next week but after
> >>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>> I'm teaching in Washington, DC and Seattle next so feel free to stop
> >>> by.
> >>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>> Brian Dennis, CCIEx5 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP/****Voice)
> >>>>>>>> bdennis_at_ine.com<mailto:bdennis_at_ine.com>
> >>>>>>>> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> >>>>>>>> http://www.INE.com
> >>>>>>>> On 04/11/2012 02:35 AM, Ivan Hrvatska wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>> I just purchased ciscopress ccie r&s exam cert guide 4th edition,
> >>>>>>>> since I had 3rd in which there was nothing about OER and PfR. I must
> >>>>>>>> say that the quality of that subject in new edition of the book is
> >>>>>>>> really poor. One config example without any explanations and without
> >>>>>>>> any topology diagrams. Nothing that can help someone to understand
> >>> the
> >>>>>>>> topic.
> >>>>>>>> So, my question is how deep this subject goes in potential task at
> >>>>>>>> exam? How much time should I spend on it since it can be very complex
> >>>>>>>> feature? The book says:
> >>>>>>>> "As you will see as you explore PfR more deeply, it is remarkably
> >>>>>>>> powerful. As you would expect, it also has many configuration
> >>> options.
> >>>>>>>> For the CCIE R&S qualifying exam, you should understand the concepts
> >>>>>>>> of PfR and how it operates and its core functionality."
> >>>>>>>> Thanks.
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