Re: OER/PfR at lab exam?

Agreed. I'm in!

Regards,
Jay McMickle- CCNP,CCSP,CCDP
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On Apr 12, 2012, at 9:10 AM, marc abel <marcabel_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> One suggestion, let's make this a semi advanced class. There are plenty of
> resources out there that show how to setup a master and borders. I think
> this group is clamoring for something a little deeper. Can we make knowing
> the basics a pre-req?
>
> -Marc
>
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Brian Dennis <bdennis_at_ine.com> wrote:
>
>> I would be more than happy to do an online presentation covering PfR. I'm
>> flying to NYC from Dubai tonight for a private CCIE bootcamp next week and
>> then I have a public bootcamp in Washington DC after that so next weekend
>> I'll be available. So if you all can be flexible we can try for next
>> weekend. We can use our new streaming solution so that it's all recorded
>> in a format that everyone can download and view for the people who can't
>> attend.
>>
>> --
>> Brian Dennis, CCIEx5 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP/**Voice)
>>
>> bdennis_at_ine.com
>>
>> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
>> http://www.INE.com
>>
>>
>> On 04/12/2012 03:35 AM, Joe Sanchez wrote:
>>
>>> How about this.... Someone (expert) on the subject of OER put together a
>>> webex and let it roll.. I'm willing to sacrifice a Saturday and a little $
>>> to get it rolling.
>>>
>>> It seems a lot of people are lacking confidence in the OER realm,
>>> including me... So what do you say?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Joe Sanchez
>>>
>>> On Apr 11, 2012, at 4:13 PM, Imran Ali<immrccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Brian ,
>>>>
>>>> A blog containing the link will be appreciated by all. However if you
>>>> want to unicast when master piece get ready , please include me in cc.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Brian Dennis<bdennis_at_ine.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Since PfR/OER is relatively new to the lab exam it's not covered as much
>>>>> as a topic like OSPF, MPLS VPNs, etc in most products. That being said
>>>>> I
>>>>> currently spend at least one full day covering it in my 10 Day R&S
>>>>> bootcamps and I cover it in-depth as getting 5 or 6 points on it in the
>>>>> lab
>>>>> exam can be the difference between passing or failing. I start from the
>>>>> basics (i.e. load balancing, PfR static& BGP route manipulation, etc )
>>>>> and
>>>>>
>>>>> work into the more advanced configurations (i.e. link groups, fast mode,
>>>>> jitter probes, delay, PBR based upon DSCP, using PfR for sink holing
>>>>> traffic, etc).
>>>>>
>>>>> To be honest there are a ton of strange, for lack of a better term,
>>>>> quirks
>>>>> with PfR that can cause trouble when someone is just starting out
>>>>> learning
>>>>> PfR. So although it may seem like a good idea for me to just throwing
>>>>> you
>>>>> the labs from my bootcamp, that isn't going to be what you really need
>>>>> to
>>>>> truly understand it. It would be like saying to me "Hey Brian I want to
>>>>> learn MPLS VPNs" and I say "Here are a couple labs. Good luck!". Think
>>>>> that will work? No.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is just a few example of quirks with PfR: An access-list used
>>>>> with a
>>>>> learn list can not match IP addresses but an access-list with a oer-map
>>>>> should match IP addresses. When using fast mode with a learn list you
>>>>> need
>>>>> to use a prefix list when also matching with an access-list. Or how to
>>>>> configure PfR to do PBR unconditionally without any OOP condition, etc,
>>>>> etc, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> As I mentioned there are a lot of pitfalls with learning PfR due to the
>>>>> fact it's a newer technology and went through a lot of changes in IOS
>>>>> 12.4T. PfR is an awesome technology and I personally love it but it
>>>>> can be
>>>>> complicated to learn for anyone starting out. I would venture to say
>>>>> that
>>>>> is it one of the most complicated of any technology currently covered in
>>>>> the lab exam. The documentation is 33% bigger than the OSPF
>>>>> documentation
>>>>> and it's only getting larger with QoS being added and PfR domains in
>>>>> future
>>>>> releases.
>>>>>
>>>>> I started a blog series on it (http://goo.gl/yH0ip) but have since
>>>>> decided to just write a whole document covering PfR as the topic is just
>>>>> too big to cover in a few blog posts. I currently have over 100 pages
>>>>> and
>>>>> I'm hoping to release it around the end of the month. If anyone would
>>>>> like
>>>>> a copy, free of charge of course, just let me know.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lastly if anyone wants to come see me cover PfR in person free of charge
>>>>> just contact INE sales and ask to audit one day of my bootcamp. It's
>>>>> normally covered on the 8th day of my bootcamp. I'm in Dubai this week
>>>>> and
>>>>> covered PfR yesterday and have a private bootcamp next week but after
>>>>> that
>>>>> I'm teaching in Washington, DC and Seattle next so feel free to stop by.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Brian Dennis, CCIEx5 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP/****Voice)
>>>>> bdennis_at_ine.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
>>>>> http://www.INE.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 04/11/2012 02:35 AM, Ivan Hrvatska wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just purchased ciscopress ccie r&s exam cert guide 4th edition,
>>>>>> since I had 3rd in which there was nothing about OER and PfR. I must
>>>>>> say that the quality of that subject in new edition of the book is
>>>>>> really poor. One config example without any explanations and without
>>>>>> any topology diagrams. Nothing that can help someone to understand the
>>>>>> topic.
>>>>>> So, my question is how deep this subject goes in potential task at
>>>>>> exam? How much time should I spend on it since it can be very complex
>>>>>> feature? The book says:
>>>>>> "As you will see as you explore PfR more deeply, it is remarkably
>>>>>> powerful. As you would expect, it also has many configuration options.
>>>>>> For the CCIE R&S qualifying exam, you should understand the concepts
>>>>>> of PfR and how it operates and its core functionality."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
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