Re: OER/PfR at lab exam?

Great idea. I can't wait to attend the presentation.
PfR treated me very bad once, I dont want that to happen again

On 12 April 2012 15:43, Stephen Lynch <slynch_at_absnt.com> wrote:

> This would be very helpful!
>
> -SL
>
> On Apr 12, 2012, at 9:10 AM, Brian Dennis <bdennis_at_ine.com> wrote:
>
> > I would be more than happy to do an online presentation covering PfR.
> I'm flying to NYC from Dubai tonight for a private CCIE bootcamp next week
> and then I have a public bootcamp in Washington DC after that so next
> weekend I'll be available. So if you all can be flexible we can try for
> next weekend. We can use our new streaming solution so that it's all
> recorded in a format that everyone can download and view for the people who
> can't attend.
> >
> > --
> > Brian Dennis, CCIEx5 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP/Voice)
> > bdennis_at_ine.com
> >
> > Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> > http://www.INE.com
> >
> >
> > On 04/12/2012 03:35 AM, Joe Sanchez wrote:
> >> How about this.... Someone (expert) on the subject of OER put together
> a webex and let it roll.. I'm willing to sacrifice a Saturday and a little
> $ to get it rolling.
> >>
> >> It seems a lot of people are lacking confidence in the OER realm,
> including me... So what do you say?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Joe Sanchez
> >>
> >> On Apr 11, 2012, at 4:13 PM, Imran Ali<immrccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Brian ,
> >>>
> >>> A blog containing the link will be appreciated by all. However if you
> >>> want to unicast when master piece get ready , please include me in cc.
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 12:35 PM, Brian Dennis<bdennis_at_ine.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Since PfR/OER is relatively new to the lab exam it's not covered as
> much
> >>>> as a topic like OSPF, MPLS VPNs, etc in most products. That being
> said I
> >>>> currently spend at least one full day covering it in my 10 Day R&S
> >>>> bootcamps and I cover it in-depth as getting 5 or 6 points on it in
> the lab
> >>>> exam can be the difference between passing or failing. I start from
> the
> >>>> basics (i.e. load balancing, PfR static& BGP route manipulation, etc
> ) and
> >>>> work into the more advanced configurations (i.e. link groups, fast
> mode,
> >>>> jitter probes, delay, PBR based upon DSCP, using PfR for sink holing
> >>>> traffic, etc).
> >>>>
> >>>> To be honest there are a ton of strange, for lack of a better term,
> quirks
> >>>> with PfR that can cause trouble when someone is just starting out
> learning
> >>>> PfR. So although it may seem like a good idea for me to just
> throwing you
> >>>> the labs from my bootcamp, that isn't going to be what you really
> need to
> >>>> truly understand it. It would be like saying to me "Hey Brian I want
> to
> >>>> learn MPLS VPNs" and I say "Here are a couple labs. Good luck!".
> Think
> >>>> that will work? No.
> >>>>
> >>>> Here is just a few example of quirks with PfR: An access-list used
> with a
> >>>> learn list can not match IP addresses but an access-list with a
> oer-map
> >>>> should match IP addresses. When using fast mode with a learn list
> you need
> >>>> to use a prefix list when also matching with an access-list. Or how
> to
> >>>> configure PfR to do PBR unconditionally without any OOP condition,
> etc,
> >>>> etc, etc.
> >>>>
> >>>> As I mentioned there are a lot of pitfalls with learning PfR due to
> the
> >>>> fact it's a newer technology and went through a lot of changes in IOS
> >>>> 12.4T. PfR is an awesome technology and I personally love it but it
> can be
> >>>> complicated to learn for anyone starting out. I would venture to say
> that
> >>>> is it one of the most complicated of any technology currently covered
> in
> >>>> the lab exam. The documentation is 33% bigger than the OSPF
> documentation
> >>>> and it's only getting larger with QoS being added and PfR domains in
> future
> >>>> releases.
> >>>>
> >>>> I started a blog series on it (http://goo.gl/yH0ip) but have since
> >>>> decided to just write a whole document covering PfR as the topic is
> just
> >>>> too big to cover in a few blog posts. I currently have over 100
> pages and
> >>>> I'm hoping to release it around the end of the month. If anyone
> would like
> >>>> a copy, free of charge of course, just let me know.
> >>>>
> >>>> Lastly if anyone wants to come see me cover PfR in person free of
> charge
> >>>> just contact INE sales and ask to audit one day of my bootcamp. It's
> >>>> normally covered on the 8th day of my bootcamp. I'm in Dubai this
> week and
> >>>> covered PfR yesterday and have a private bootcamp next week but after
> that
> >>>> I'm teaching in Washington, DC and Seattle next so feel free to stop
> by.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Brian Dennis, CCIEx5 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP/**Voice)
> >>>> bdennis_at_ine.com
> >>>>
> >>>> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
> >>>> http://www.INE.com
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 04/11/2012 02:35 AM, Ivan Hrvatska wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I just purchased ciscopress ccie r&s exam cert guide 4th edition,
> >>>>> since I had 3rd in which there was nothing about OER and PfR. I must
> >>>>> say that the quality of that subject in new edition of the book is
> >>>>> really poor. One config example without any explanations and without
> >>>>> any topology diagrams. Nothing that can help someone to understand
> the
> >>>>> topic.
> >>>>> So, my question is how deep this subject goes in potential task at
> >>>>> exam? How much time should I spend on it since it can be very complex
> >>>>> feature? The book says:
> >>>>> "As you will see as you explore PfR more deeply, it is remarkably
> >>>>> powerful. As you would expect, it also has many configuration
> options.
> >>>>> For the CCIE R&S qualifying exam, you should understand the concepts
> >>>>> of PfR and how it operates and its core functionality."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
> >>>>>
> >>>>> ______________________________**______________________________**
> >>>>> ___________
> >>>>> Subscription information may be found at:
> >>>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/**list/CCIELab.html<
> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
> >>>>
> >>>> ______________________________**______________________________**
> >>>> ___________
> >>>> Subscription information may be found at:
> http://www.groupstudy.com/**
> >>>> list/CCIELab.html<http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________________________________
> >>> Subscription information may be found at:
> >>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html
> >
> >
> > Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
> >
> > _______________________________________________________________________
> > Subscription information may be found at:
> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html
>
>
> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
>
> _______________________________________________________________________
> Subscription information may be found at:
> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html

Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
Received on Thu Apr 12 2012 - 16:03:05 ART