Re: OER/PfR at lab exam?

Thanks Tom for your feedback:

"When I went through the certification guide regarding that section I did
not get as much out of it as I would have preferred."

What didn't you get out of it? Can you be more specific?
Did you read the entire guide thoroughly, perhaps more than once? Did
you lab up the configuation examples?

There is a lot of information in the guide document, including
diagrams with different scenerios, and caveots based on IOS versions,
and for supported features. There is also configuration examples.

If you did not pass the lab exam, and you felt that this topic was not
sufficiently covered in the Cisco documentation, can you give a
specific example.

Regards,
John

 So my boss at the
time got us some vendor training materials where not only did the topic
get covered better

On 4/11/12, Tom Kosa (takosa) <takosa_at_cisco.com> wrote:
> John,
>
> When I went through the certification guide regarding that section I did
> not get as much out of it as I would have preferred. So my boss at the
> time got us some vendor training materials where not only did the topic
> get covered better but we had a chance to lab along with it and get a
> better understanding of the subject. This of course occurred after my
> first lab attempt where I went in studying the guide and doing as much
> form it as I could, but NDA considered all I can say is that for me it
> was not enough to pass.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> -Tamas
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: john matijevic [mailto:john.matijevic_at_gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 11:56 AM
> To: Tom Kosa (takosa)
> Cc: Adam Booth; Ivan Hrvatska; Cisco certification
> Subject: Re: OER/PfR at lab exam?
>
> Tom,
>
>
> "The guide is a good
>> glance over for the topics you need to know but its the vendor
>> materials that will really dig in and give you your money's worth."
>
> This seems to me a vague statement.
> Can you please be more specific on how the vendor material will really
> dig in?
>
> Please provide an example if possible.
>
> Regards,,
> John
>
>
>
>
> On 4/11/12, Tom Kosa (takosa) <takosa_at_cisco.com> wrote:
>> Speaking from experience I would agree with Adam. The guide is a good
>> glance over for the topics you need to know but its the vendor
>> materials that will really dig in and give you your money's worth. The
>
>> written is more about theory and book, and the lab is what you really
>> know and can you actually apply it. I made the same mistake on my
>> first try and there were huge gaps in my knowledge base going into it.
>
>> Pick a vendor (they are actually all very good) and go to town. If you
>
>> are serious about it than your money will not be wasted.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> -Tamas
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf
>> Of Adam Booth
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2012 6:01 PM
>> To: Ivan Hrvatska
>> Cc: Cisco certification
>> Subject: Re: OER/PfR at lab exam?
>>
>> Hi Ivan,
>>
>> I personally felt that book was more useful in consolidating material
>> in one place to support attempting the written exam and even then the
>> blueprint as you say does cover more topics than what the book can
>> cover in detail otherwise it may be 2500 pages or more in length.
>>
>> I cant tell you exactly how much detail you have to know but I would
>> strongly recommend a more than passing acquaintance with it.
>> Supplementary material besides what you find on CCO is a number of the
>
>> major CCIE training vendors have multiple postings covering this on
>> their blogs and certainly understanding the main phases of the PfR
>> process will be helpful if you are a little rusty and have to deal
>> with the topic.
>>
>> I think preparing for the CCIE lab is like being a scout, you need to
>> be prepared, anything listed on the blue print is fair game and
>> sometimes it seems that the proctor can smell your weakness and give
>> you an exam that has that topic in it.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Adam
>>
>> On 4/11/12, Ivan Hrvatska <ivanzghr_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I just purchased ciscopress ccie r&s exam cert guide 4th edition,
>>> since I had 3rd in which there was nothing about OER and PfR. I must
>>> say that the quality of that subject in new edition of the book is
>>> really poor. One config example without any explanations and without
>>> any topology diagrams. Nothing that can help someone to understand
>>> the
>>
>>> topic.
>>> So, my question is how deep this subject goes in potential task at
>>> exam? How much time should I spend on it since it can be very complex
>
>>> feature? The book says:
>>> "As you will see as you explore PfR more deeply, it is remarkably
>>> powerful. As you would expect, it also has many configuration
> options.
>>> For the CCIE R&S qualifying exam, you should understand the concepts
>>> of PfR and how it operates and its core functionality."
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
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