RE: OER/PfR at lab exam?

 Hi,

 Obviously due to NDA I can't say too much but as many people have said
 the vendor material is not enough for this subject. Even if you go
 deeper on your own the documentation is not that great on this subject.
 The Tech wiki is actually better than the DOCCD for this subject. Also
 I'm not sure why Cisco is testing this so hard, maybe they want to pimp
 their own technology? If you miss that section you don't have much room
 for other errors in your config. I felt this was a bit unfair but Cisco
 makes the rules so I have to play by them.

 /Daniel

 On Wed, 11 Apr 2012 08:35:25 +0300, Mohammad Khalil wrote:
> Hi all , actually the OER question in the lab exam is beyond the
> basic concepts of OER !
> Its not only about basic MC and BR configuration , its deeper in the
> matter of controlling traffic and some hidden issues you have to dig
> so deep to get it and some restrictions that anyone read basic
> examples about OER will not get it
>
> Thanks
>
>
>> Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 21:42:21 -0700
>> Subject: Re: OER/PfR at lab exam?
>> From: narbikk_at_gmail.com
>> To: renorider_at_gmail.com
>> CC: marcabel_at_gmail.com; ivanzghr_at_gmail.com; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>>
>> Once i get home i will be able to send it to you guys.
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 8:50 PM, marc edwards <renorider_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Same is true of EEM
>> >
>> > On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 7:25 PM, marc abel <marcabel_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Thank you, that is very generous of you.
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 9:01 PM, Narbik Kocharians
>> <narbikk_at_gmail.com
>> >> >wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > I will just send the labs to you, you don't need to purchase
>> the entire
>> >> > book to see three labs.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 6:22 PM, marc abel <marcabel_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Narbik,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> How much do you cover it? From what I have seen no vendor
>> covers it
>> >> well
>> >> >> enough (I have not seen your material on the subject). They
>> seem to
>> >> just
>> >> >> show you how to configure a master and some border routers,
>> not much on
>> >> >> using different techniques of controlling traffic, teaching
>> the
>> >> difference
>> >> >> between active probes, passive probes. What makes traffic
>> in/out of
>> >> policy.
>> >> >> etc.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The general consensus I have seen is "It's such a broad topic
>> we
>> >> couldn't
>> >> >> possibly teach you everything so Cisco probably wont test you
>> very
>> >> deep on
>> >> >> it." Well I don't think Cisco agrees with that second part. To
>> me this
>> >> >> topic is the poorest covered of any on the blueprint.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -Marc
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 8:05 PM, Narbik Kocharians
>> <narbikk_at_gmail.com
>> >> >wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Ivan,
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> The book that you are referring to was not written for the
>> lab
>> >> portion of
>> >> >>> the cert, it was written for the written portion of the
>> certificate
>> >> and i
>> >> >>> know that for sure because i was the tech editor.
>> >> >>> If you need examples of OER/pfr labs you need to purchase a
>> book from
>> >> one
>> >> >>> of the CCIE vendors such as: NetMaster, IPexpert, Micronics
>> (my
>> >> company),
>> >> >>> or some others.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Ivan Hrvatska
>> <ivanzghr_at_gmail.com>
>> >> >>> wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> > Hi,
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > I just purchased ciscopress ccie r&s exam cert guide 4th
>> edition,
>> >> >>> > since I had 3rd in which there was nothing about OER and
>> PfR. I must
>> >> >>> > say that the quality of that subject in new edition of the
>> book is
>> >> >>> > really poor. One config example without any explanations
>> and without
>> >> >>> > any topology diagrams. Nothing that can help someone to
>> understand
>> >> the
>> >> >>> > topic.
>> >> >>> > So, my question is how deep this subject goes in potential
>> task at
>> >> >>> > exam? How much time should I spend on it since it can be
>> very
>> >> complex
>> >> >>> > feature? The book says:
>> >> >>> > "As you will see as you explore PfR more deeply, it is
>> remarkably
>> >> >>> > powerful. As you would expect, it also has many
>> configuration
>> >> options.
>> >> >>> > For the CCIE R&S qualifying exam, you should understand the
>> concepts
>> >> >>> > of PfR and how it operates and its core functionality."
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > Thanks.
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
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