Re: CCIE R&S lab advice about workbooks

Well, thanks for your advices. This is my 4th attempt :) so I want to
be as much prepared as I can be. Specially since this time I'm paying,
not company (which is now ex) :)
I think that INE will do. The reason I'm asking is that since I went
through OLD Narbik's WBs couple of times and I'm totally familiar with
topics and I understand everything in it. About updates on Narbik's
WB, hmm...I attended his bootcamp in 2009 twice and only WBs I have
are v2.0. Never asked for updates. I don't know how much do they cost,
if they cost any.
I also failed cause I didn't go through ALL topics in blue print and
than some particular topics, which I thought are irrelevant, surprised
me.

Regards

On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Carlos G Mendioroz <tron_at_huapi.ba.ar> wrote:
> Respectfully, I think that your use of MUST is inappropiate,
> at least from an RFC point of view. you should have used SHOULD.
>
> You can learn without going with any vendor. All the information is
> there at cisco.com for you to take :)
> (And here at GS of course, thanks Paul!)
>
> -Carlos
>
> Narbik Kocharians @ 15/03/2012 00:00 -0300 dixit:
>
>> Michael is right on the money.
>>
>> But you MUST go with the vendor that you feel comfortable with. You MUST
>> audit their boot camps before signing up for one, people don't do that,
>> but
>> they must realise that they will be interacting with that vendor from time
>> to time, they need to ask questions and have the vendor answer their
>> questions in a timely manner.
>>
>> But i do agree going with two vendors, because you get to see it from two
>> different perspective.
>>
>> Can you retake, can you get free updates and etc etc etc etc etc when you
>> read their workbook, do you understand their explanations? are they trying
>> to teach you the stuff or are they trying to amaze you with some useless
>> info? it's all important.
>>
>> From my perspective they are all GR8. you can not go wrong with any of
>> the
>> vendors here, you have Micronics (us), NetMaster, IPexpert, and INE. ALL
>> GR8.
>>
>> BTW, congratulation to my son (Patrick) for passing his CCNA, i am proud
>> of
>> him, soon he will be going for CCNP and CCIE. Patrick studied with Anthony
>> Sequeira and Todd Lammle, these two instructors did an amazing job. He is
>> forever grateful to them.
>>
>> Good luck.
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 6:17 PM, Michael Kiefer<mjkiefer_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Sounds like sound advice Aaron. So many people are out there splitting
>>> hairs about vendors. At the end of the day all vendors teach the same
>>> thing. There are no silver bullets except hard work and dedication. That
>>> being said, use two vendors or more. You'll get two different
>>> perspectives
>>> on the same topics.
>>>
>>> Michael Kiefer
>>> CCIE#34420 R&S
>>>
>>> Sent from my Droid Bionic
>>> On Mar 14, 2012 8:08 PM, "Aaron"<aaron1_at_gvtc.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Walking away from my second failure on Monday, I agree. Time to go line
>>>
>>> by
>>>>
>>>> line through the blueprint and setup couple router/switch scenarios to
>>>
>>> test
>>>>
>>>> out and read along each and every topic , debugs, all of it..... before
>>>> trying to build a sky scraper I should probably build a couple sheds
>>>> proficiently.....before trying to perform open heart surgery on a human,
>>>> perhaps I'll dissect a couple frogs and get real good at the for the
>>>> next
>>>> few months ...just my thoughts.
>>>>
>>>> Aaron
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
>>>> Jochen Bartl
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 4:33 PM
>>>> To: Ivan Hrvatska
>>>> Cc: Cisco certification
>>>> Subject: Re: CCIE R&S lab advice about workbooks
>>>>
>>>> Hi Ivan,
>>>>
>>>> I would recommend to create mini labs with just two or three routers for
>>>> each topic on the blueprint. Just to figure out how each technology
>>>
>>> works,
>>>>
>>>> what's required to enable it and how to troubleshoot it.
>>>>
>>>> My last lab attempt wasn't successful, because I didn't pay enough
>>>> attention
>>>> to a few topics on the blueprint. I would have done better if I had
>>>
>>> labbed
>>>>
>>>> them up in more detail earlier, with just a few routers to fully
>>>
>>> understand
>>>>
>>>> how those features work.
>>>>
>>>> best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Jochen
>>>>
>>>>
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