Re: OT----OT----SPv3 - DRM

Narbik,
It doesn't limit their learning experience by requiring them to login to
download their purchases. Just because you're upset at our stance on
DRM you shouldn't need to reply in all caps.

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Brian Dennis, CCIEx5 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP/Voice)
bdennis_at_ine.com
Internetwork Expert, Inc.
http://www.INE.com
On 03/15/2012 03:31 PM, Narbik Kocharians wrote:
> Protecting your work does not mean that you are punishing your honest
> paying clients, all they have to do is to click on our book and it opens
> and they can read and access it, how does that hinder them from learning?
>
> BTW, WHY DO YOU GUYS HAVE A USERNAME AND PASSWORD FOR ACCESSING YOUR
> WORKBOOKS, VIDEOS AND ETC? what is it..... you don't trust people? WHY?
> leave it open, who ever paid, will click and access your stuff, people
> that have not paid, they will NEVER do that. Correct? Are you NOT trying
> to protect your work?
>
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Brian Dennis <bdennis_at_ine.com
> <mailto:bdennis_at_ine.com>> wrote:
>
>     Our products are up there now and have been for years.  It doesn't
>     mean I'm going to punish honest paying customers by restricting
>     their access and forcing them to use a horrible program like
>     LockLizard or whatever that new one Cisco uses is called.
>
>     I honestly believe that the vast major of people in this world are
>     honest and I'm not going hinder their learning experience by
>     treating them like they are dishonest.
>
>     --
>     Brian Dennis, CCIEx5 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP/__Voice)
>
>     bdennis_at_ine.com <mailto:bdennis_at_ine.com>
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>     Internetwork Expert, Inc.
>     http://www.INE.com
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>     On 03/15/2012 02:53 PM, Narbik Kocharians wrote:
>
>         So Brian what do you do when someone purchases your book/s and
>         puts it
>         on one of these shared sites? What if the shared site is in another
>         country?
>
>         On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 2:37 PM, Paul Negron
>         <negron.paul_at_gmail.com <mailto:negron.paul_at_gmail.com>
>         <mailto:negron.paul_at_gmail.com <mailto:negron.paul_at_gmail.com>>__>
>         wrote:
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>             GREAT
>             --
>             Paul Negron
>             CCIE# 14856 CCSI# 22752
>             Senior Technical Instructor
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>          > From: Ryan West <rwest_at_zyedge.com <mailto:rwest_at_zyedge.com>
>         <mailto:rwest_at_zyedge.com <mailto:rwest_at_zyedge.com>>>
>          > Reply-To: Ryan West <rwest_at_zyedge.com
>         <mailto:rwest_at_zyedge.com> <mailto:rwest_at_zyedge.com
>         <mailto:rwest_at_zyedge.com>>>
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>          > Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 21:32:18 +0000
>          > To: Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com
>         <mailto:narbikk_at_gmail.com> <mailto:narbikk_at_gmail.com
>         <mailto:narbikk_at_gmail.com>>>
>          > Cc: Brian Dennis <bdennis_at_ine.com <mailto:bdennis_at_ine.com>
>         <mailto:bdennis_at_ine.com <mailto:bdennis_at_ine.com>>>,
>         "ccielab_at_groupstudy.com <mailto:ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>         <mailto:ccielab_at_groupstudy.com <mailto:ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>__>"
>          > <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com <mailto:ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
>         <mailto:ccielab_at_groupstudy.com <mailto:ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>__>>
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>          > Conversation: OT----OT----SPv3 - DRM
>          > Subject: Re: OT----OT----SPv3 - DRM
>          >
>          > I agree, they are great.
>          >
>          > Sent from handheld
>          >
>          > On Mar 15, 2012, at 5:26 PM, "Narbik Kocharians"
>         <narbikk_at_gmail.com <mailto:narbikk_at_gmail.com>
>         <mailto:narbikk_at_gmail.com <mailto:narbikk_at_gmail.com>>> wrote:
>          >
>          >> WOW, unbelievable. You guys are GR8.
>          >>
>          >> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Brian Dennis
>         <bdennis_at_ine.com <mailto:bdennis_at_ine.com>
>         <mailto:bdennis_at_ine.com <mailto:bdennis_at_ine.com>>> wrote:
>          >>
>          >>> INE does not use any sort of DRM for our PDFs or videos.  When
>             you buy the
>          >>> product, it's yours to use as you see fit.  You want the play
>             the videos on
>          >>> your phone, tablet, TV, computer, etc offline or online?  You
>             can do it.
>          >>> You want to use the workbook PDFs on your phone, tablet,
>             notebook, etc
>          >>> offline or online?  You can do it. You want to print the PDF
>             1000 times?
>          >>> Then do it.  I'm not going to restrict that.
>          >>>
>          >>> You bought it and it's your product.  Just because someone else
>             isn't
>          >>> honest I'm not going to treat you like you're dishonest.  Screw
>             DRM.
>          >>>
>          >>> --
>          >>> Brian Dennis, CCIEx5 #2210 (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/SP/**__Voice)
>          >>> bdennis_at_ine.com <mailto:bdennis_at_ine.com>
>         <mailto:bdennis_at_ine.com <mailto:bdennis_at_ine.com>>
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>          >>>
>          >>> Internetwork Expert, Inc.
>          >>> http://www.INE.com
>          >>>
>          >>>
>          >>> On 03/15/2012 11:33 AM, Paul Negron wrote:
>          >>>
>          >>>> Funny how everyone seems to AGREE on NDA integrity and then
>             turns around
>          >>>> and
>          >>>> shares workbook material that they alone are licensed for. I
>             feel the same
>          >>>> way about software nowadays. Offer me the FULL version with an
>             option to
>          >>>> buy
>          >>>> it if I like it.(That's fair).
>          >>>>
>          >>>> The Brians, Narbik and every vendor that helps here works very
>             hard to
>          >>>> give
>          >>>> you the very best they have. Everyone should honor that.
>          >>>>
>          >>>> Unfortunately there will be always be the NOBLE cheater that
>             feels they
>          >>>> can
>          >>>> just download a song off there buddy's laptop and feel that it
>             is somehow
>          >>>> OK. Stealing is Stealing no matter how you spin it.
>          >>>>
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