Re: Cloud vs The Internet Versus History

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We had a datacenter consolidation project. P2V and whatnot. Couldn't get
funding. We presented the same project as a private cloud. Leadership is
loving it.

-Hammer-

"I was a normal American nerd"
-Jack Herer

On 3/7/2012 10:24 AM, ALL From_NJ wrote:
> A friend of mine had his management team reject his design proposal. He
> had "Data Centers" listed throughout ..., he was not considered
> forward-thinking enough.
>
> He renamed the DCs to Private Cloud, and everyone loved it. He is now the
> 'cloud expert' ...
>
> Lol
>
> Andrew Lissitz
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 7:12 AM, Radioactive Frog<pbhatkoti_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Yeah Ronnie, worked with automation tool that VMware provides (redwood, if
>> u know this codeword, now people calling it director). end of the day they
>> all hook off the vcenter.
>> Therefore, still part of virtulization, just extra layer of management that
>> gives end usr VI like client feature to create and manage their own VM.
>>
>> There are new toolkit coming up for these automations. We demonstrated
>> intra-cloud connectivity in VMworld 2011 and moved VM from one Cloud
>> provider to another one.
>> Technically, that is still underlying network and virtulization technology.
>> Whatever you want to call it.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Ronnie Angello<ronnie.angello_at_gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>>> Vblock / Flexpod alone doesn't necessarily mean cloud... Neither does
>>> virtualization. You done anything with automation/orchestration yet?
>> Self
>>> service? That's cool stuff!
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Mar 7, 2012, at 12:06 AM, Radioactive Frog<pbhatkoti_at_gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> Having deployed first v-block in the region, I can tell you the truth
>>> about
>>>> cloud computing!
>>>>
>>>> In a nutshell, cloud computing just the marketing/sales bluff. It was
>>> there
>>>> years ago, HP did it on superdom.
>>>> Virtulization technology made the use of the general purpose hardware
>> to
>>> be
>>>> capable and scale up architect.
>>>>
>>>> Whats new here?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 5:43 AM, Bill6521<bil6521_at_netscape.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So guys we think we are moving the boundaries of technology - Read
>> the
>>>>> March
>>>>> edition of the Flyer guys
>>>>>
>>>>> Whats The Difference Between the Cloud and the Internet ?
>>>>> We all know what the Cloud and the Internet are but can the Cloud
>> truly
>>>>> function in an international environment without the Internet. The
>>> Internet
>>>>> also provides services like the Cloud but not on the same scale but is
>>> it
>>>>> feasible it can do in the future or will the Internet always be a
>>> transport
>>>>> network for client to provider Cloud services.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone remember the mainframe computer? Wasnb t that our original
>>>>> cloud
>>>>> computing platform? o
>>>>> All that changes is the location of your data. Well,
>>>>> ok, so that part about b Dude, Whereb s My Data?b is also important.
>>> But
>>>>> concepts havenb t changed.
>>>>>
>>>>> The CLOUD b Nothing new there. Does anyone remember EinsteinNet
>>>>> (Germany)? I
>>>>> mean (From Wikipedia) the definition of Cloud computing is the
>> delivery
>>> of
>>>>> computing as a service rather than a product, whereby shared
>> resources,
>>>>> software, and information are provided to computers and other devices
>>> as a
>>>>> metered service over a network typically the Internet. Cloud computing
>>>>> provides computation, software, data access, and storage resources
>>> without
>>>>> requiring cloud users to know the location and other details of the
>>>>> computing
>>>>> infrastructure. Whereas EinsteinNet (Germany), spoke about b the
>>> provision
>>>>> of
>>>>> a new breed of IP services driving the evolution from simple network
>>>>> access to
>>>>> value-added, revenue-generating bundled services. The service
>> providers
>>> who
>>>>> choose to implement a second generation services platform will be
>>> strongly
>>>>> positioned to take advantage of the mass markets' growing needs for
>>> these
>>>>> critical, network-based servicesb . Cloud Computing Services b
>>> EinsteinNet
>>>>> b Immmm- sounds familiar
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts/Comments ??
>>>>>
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