Re: PhD vs CCIE

Hi Joseph,

Read my article in CCIE Flyer. Nor did they break it down by age or sex or
nationality.

Regards,

Bill

-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph L. Brunner <joe_at_affirmedsystems.com>
To: jazzsunn <jazzsunn_at_gmail.com>; Bill6521 <bil6521_at_netscape.net>; ccielab
<ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
Sent: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 17:22
Subject: RE: PhD vs CCIE

Notice they don't break down how many "Emeritus"
LOL

----Original Message-----
rom: jazzsunn_at_gmail.com [mailto:jazzsunn_at_gmail.com]
ent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 11:15 AM
o: Joseph L. Brunner; Bill6521; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
ubject: Re: PhD vs CCIE
According to LTRCC-3000.pdf (updated 1/9/12, available on
ciscolivevirtual.com),
here are 26,634 currently certified CCIEs.
S - 17,320
ec - 3794
P - 2885
oice - 2291
AN - 170
ireless - 93
CDE - 63
P Ops - 11
CAr - 7

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-----Original Message-----
rom: "Joseph L. Brunner" <joe_at_affirmedsystems.com>
ender: nobody_at_groupstudy.com
ate: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 16:07:02
o: Bill6521<bil6521_at_netscape.net>;
ccielab_at_groupstudy.com<ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
eply-To: "Joseph L. Brunner" <joe_at_affirmedsystems.com>
ubject: RE: PhD vs CCIE
No there are far less CCIE's than that - many older lions are retiring from
the
usiness.
Of that number how many are current on today's technologies?
Don't sell yourself short - I had a job req out at a client in 2009 for a CCIE
t $225,000 or so - the first 50 guys we interviewed could not explain how DHCP
orked :) (DoRa for those of you that know)
"how many good ones"
-----Original Message-----
rom: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Bill6521
ent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 10:57 AM
o: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
ubject: Fwd: PhD vs CCIE
Hi Guys,
I think we are all missing the point here the discussion from my point of view
s "employability" and here is my perspective. Today I understand there are
over
0,000 CCIEs thats three times what there was a few years ago and even
,000 more then when I got my number. Gone are the days when employers would be
ucky about getting one CCIE and we were literally regarded as "network gods".
e are competing against "each other" and in a highly competitive world
 even as CCIEs. In that competitive world you have to give yourself an "edge"
 something extra - what I would suggest is dont just bank on getting employed
ecause you are a CCIE - and dont forget some off us are also getting employed
ecause we have track records as well as being CCIEs. Most employment agents/HR
epartments do a word trawl in the first instance and the more edge you have
the
ore likely you have to move to the next stage of interview etc thats what
these
ertifications do for you - and dont also be a one trick pony
 consider doing a JNCIE or HP Master ASE as well as another CCIE.

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Received on Tue Mar 06 2012 - 11:28:45 ART