Re: Three CCIE certification in 7 months!!!

Tony,

They said the same thing about me when I got two CCIEs in 21 days.

But I have seen some CCIEs that make me wonder.....It also makes me mad
because on one hand I see lots of people like you and others that are
obviously concerned, and study real hard and learn and enjoy the journey,
and on the other hand, I see people that claim to be CCIEs and we both know
that they should NOT be, and are NOT up to that standard at ALL.

They should be CCBSAs (A new certification) because they will pass on their
first try.

There are good doctors and there are bad ones.......such as life. At the
end of the day, we all have to show what we know as engineers, instructors,
sales and etc..

To me its easy to spot the real CCIE, he/she is the one that jumps at the
console and tries to fix the problem, while everyone else (The CCBSAs) are
looking at the person troubleshooting and get into the philosophy, the
theory and the RFCs BUT WILL NEVER BE AT THE CONSOLE WHILE EVERYONE ELSE IS
LOOKING OVER THEIR SHOULDER.

Its cool to tell the world that you are a CCIE, but the big question is
what are you going to do with it? OK, I am a doctor, now what?

On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 11:43 AM, George J. Sanchez
<marco207p_at_gmail.com>wrote:

> Get back to studying and stop worrying about what other people are doing,
> unless they are your study partners.
>
> Regards,
> Joe Sanchez
>
> On Mar 2, 2012, at 1:32 PM, Ronnie Angello <ronnie.angello_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Haters... LOL
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Sadiq Yakasai <sadiqtanko_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> And I also agree! :-)
> >>
> >> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Imran Ali <immrccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Cant agree more !
> >>>
> >>> wonder how people find time to do research for other achievments and
> then
> >>> try to say he cheeted !
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 8:18 PM, Prakash Kalsaria <
> >>> kalsaria.prakash_at_gmail.com
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> We should concentrate on studies rather than judging the other people
> >>>> achievements .....
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent on my BlackBerry.
> >>>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Imran Ali <immrccie_at_gmail.com>
> >>>> Sender: nobody_at_groupstudy.com
> >>>> Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2012 20:12:27
> >>>> To: Tony Blanco<blancoj17_at_yahoo.com>
> >>>> Reply-To: Imran Ali <immrccie_at_gmail.com>
> >>>> Cc: Narbik Kocharians<narbikk_at_gmail.com>; James Poplawski<
> >>>> jb.poplawski_at_gmail.com>; Duncan Maccubbin<
> >> duncan.maccubbin_at_earthlink.net
> >>>> ;
> >>>> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com<ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> >>>> Subject: Re: Three CCIE certifications in 7 months!!!
> >>>>
> >>>> why you see people complaining about others...
> >>>>
> >>>> because ccie is battle where only few human beings have courage to
> >> work
> >>>> through the painful journey and get the no's. it happens such that
> >> along
> >>>> the journey some loos motivation ...and starts looking for " EXCUSES
> "
> >>> for
> >>>> discountuning the journey .
> >>>>
> >>>> dont get me wrong i am just trying to bring my point .... No need to
> >>>> worry if you are an expert you will excell regardless of certification
> >> .
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 7:48 PM, Tony Blanco <blancoj17_at_yahoo.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> I do not get it...why I always see people on this forum that are
> >> trying
> >>>> to
> >>>>> get
> >>>>> their number and at the same time always complaining about other who
> >>> have
> >>>>> done
> >>>>> it....folks at the end of the day the bottom line is get the
> >> experience
> >>>> and
> >>>>> get the number...many people here talk about cheating and I have not
> >>> idea
> >>>>> how
> >>>>> is done...because believe me when the day for the lab arrive you will
> >>>> have
> >>>>> a
> >>>>> animal in front of you and your biggest enemy will be time and the
> >>>>> pressure of
> >>>>> the test....alls ccie that I have know are very smart people, down to
> >>>> earth
> >>>>> and the most important is they have the discipline to learn anything
> >>> new
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> the discipline to troubleshoot and make a contribution to a design
> >> of a
> >>>> new
> >>>>> network properly...I happen to know a few people who have a PHD on
> >>> their
> >>>>> credentials, and all are very smart people but I am sure that some
> >>>>> are smarter that the other but what you are going say that they cheat
> >>> on
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> PHD :) Gime a break......lets spent more
> >>>>> time studying like I am doing for my next track security (when I
> >>> though
> >>>> I
> >>>>> new
> >>>>> everything now I have go back to the drawing board) and not
> >> complaining
> >>>>> about
> >>>>> others....
> >>>>>
> >>>>> My two long cents....
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Juan Blanco
> >>>>> CCIE# 25056 (R&S)
> >>>>> ________________________________
> >>>>> From: Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
> >>>>> To: James Poplawski <jb.poplawski_at_gmail.com>
> >>>>> Cc: Duncan Maccubbin
> >>>>> <duncan.maccubbin_at_earthlink.net>; "ccielab_at_groupstudy.com"
> >>>>> <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> >>>>> Sent: Friday, March 2, 2012 11:27 AM
> >>>>> Subject: Re:
> >>>>> Three CCIE certifications in 7 months!!!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> James.........Totally agreed.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On
> >>>>> Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 7:38 AM, James Poplawski <jb.poplawski_at_gmail.com
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> True colors always shine through. People that cheat will eventually
> >> be
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> discovered. You can't hide the fact that you have limited hands on
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> knowledge.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> As for the gentleman from China, you don't know his journey.
> >>>>> "Don't
> >>>>>> compare your dress rehearsals to someone else's live performance."
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> SP/R+S are close to the same. Voice is Different sure but people have
> >>>>>> done
> >>>>> it, and if you study 24/7 and am dedicated anything is possible.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Happy
> >>>>> studying!
> >>>>>> JB
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mar 2, 2012, at 4:48 AM, Duncan
> >>>>> Maccubbin
> >>>>>> <duncan.maccubbin_at_earthlink.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "I did search the
> >>>>> name in Google."
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> You may want to try Baidu. How did you spell his name
> >>>>> in Chinese? Those
> >>>>>> characters can be confusing. He may be active on Chinese
> >>>>> websites.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>>>> From: "Calin C."
> >>>>> <calin_at_nsec.co>
> >>>>>>>> Sent: Mar 2, 2012 3:18 AM
> >>>>>>>> To: Marc La Porte
> >>>>> <marc.a.laporte_at_gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>> Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re:
> >>>>> Three CCIE certifications in 7 months!!!
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> This is exactly why I have
> >>>>> doubts to continue in CCIE pursuing. I mean I
> >>>>>>>> have no doubt that there
> >>>>> are smart (genius) people out there, but
> >>>>>> still...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I did search the
> >>>>> name in Google. Many results, but nothing that point me
> >>>>>>>> to this person.
> >>>>> Next I did search for Marko Milivojevic also multiple
> >>>>>>>> CCIE and I got
> >>>>> plenty of results (books, discussion, training, forums
> >>>>>>>> and so on...).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> See my point? Marko (I chose him as he was the first name in my
> >>>> mind)
> >>>>> is
> >>>>>>>> multiple CCIE, achieved during a longer period of time who has a
> >>>>> proven
> >>>>>>>> tech background. Even without face-2-face discussion with Marko
> >>>>> you can
> >>>>>>>> recognize his technical value. Now Mr. Han does not appear in
> >> any
> >>>>> of my
> >>>>>>>> search and over night he is multiple CCIE.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> If he got this
> >>>>> certification base on his skills and somehow arrive at
> >>>>>>>> this discussion,
> >>>>> than I'm glad to hear him sharing some of his
> >>>>>>>> knowledge. Maybe we can
> >>>>> learn something.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>> Calin
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On 03/02/2012 09:25
> >>>>> AM, Marc La Porte wrote:
> >>>>>>>>> Name Certification Type Certification Number
> >>>>> Track Certification
> >>>>>>>>> Status Certification
> >>>>>>>>> Date HONGWEI HAN CCIE
> >>>>> 20353 Routing and Switching Re-certified
> >>>>>>>>> 25-Mar-2008 HONGWEI
> >>>>>>>>> HAN
> >>>>> CCIE 20353 Voice Re-certified 17-Mar-2011 HONGWEI HAN CCIE 20353
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>> Security Re-certified 09-Aug-2011 HONGWEI HAN CCIE 20353 Service
> >>>>>> Provider
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Re-certified 31-Oct-2011
> >>>>>>>>>
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