Re: Which CCIE track next

I would have to disagree with the R&S going deeper into QOS. The SP has got
some scenarios that are rather lengthy Sir. :-)

There is quite an overlap but I would say CCIE R&S is designed to help the
candidate understand the Enterprise with greater depth.

I would agree with your second point though. CCIE is not the end but the
beginning. It is a tool to help you get more opportunities and be exposed to
different things. I have the CCIE in SP but I have been doing a ton of
Unified Computing lately. The SP brain gave me a tremendous advantage. The
Routing and Switching would have helped me in a different way but would have
been equally effective.

Paul

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Paul Negron
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Senior Technical Instructor
> From: Alexei Monastyrnyi <alexeim73_at_gmail.com>
> Reply-To: Alexei Monastyrnyi <alexeim73_at_gmail.com>
> Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 20:23:38 +1100
> To: John Bevan <john.bevan_at_ymail.com>
> Cc: "ccielab_at_groupstudy.com" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> Subject: Re: Which CCIE track next
> 
> John,
> with all due respect I would have to disagree with your statement that
> RS track is mostly covered by SP. It is true that core SP routing topics
> excluding MPLS and TE are covered by RS track. But RS track goes above
> and beyond covering LAN switching, QoS etc.
> 
> My other point (and I have to apologize for being persistent here and
> posting it every so often), is why would you wish to start preparing for
> a track you don't have experience/exposure with? How would your CV look
> like stating that you are CCIE in SP and say Voice or Security and
> backing it up with lab preparation experience only? Passing the lab does
> not make you an expert. Being exposed to technologies does.
> 
> So if you just want to nail CCIE double, better go for RS or SP Ops, it
> will look good on your CV and the stretch should not be too hard on
> you.  Although still quite challenging. Ask Marko M who went from SP to RS.
> If you want to learn a new technology(es), start from the scratch, with
> Voice or Security, it will be fun. But not put a cart before horses by
> short-cutting and aiming for IE level right away.
> 
> My .02 AUD excl GST :-)
> 
> A.
> 
> On 1/22/2012 2:06 AM, John Bevan wrote:
>> Hello experts,
>> 
>> This topic might have been discussed before, but still want
>> your valuable inputs after taking a look at my experience and views about
>> each
>> track.
>> 
>> 
>> I am already CCIE service provider and working with one of biggest
>> service providers in US. Now the issue for me is which CCIE track I should go
>> for next.
>> 
>> CCIE R&S :- As most of topics already covered in SP, so not much
>> motivational to go for it. But then need to cover few things to prepare for
>> practice labs. Motivation is biggest concern for me with this track :-(
>> 
>> CCIE
>> Security :- Don't have much experience with Security but then good new stuff
>> to learn motivates me. Will need longer time to study as need to go through
>> theory first and then start with labs. Only thing I heard (and experience) is
>> that Cisco security products are not that widely used and hence not much
>> demand for CCIE security professionals (I may be wrong in this and need
>> inputs, specially with Service provider Security domain ). So motivation
>> present in this but thinking of "Is it worth to devote so much of time in
>> this
>> track"
>> 
>> CCIE Voice :- I know this is hottest [:-)] CCIE track, but then I
>> don't have any experience in this. By any means expect QOS I don't know even
>> very basics of voice field. So for me in this track, No motivation, no
>> experince, only thing is that its Hot.
>> 
>> Other Tracks :-
>> 
>> Sp Ops : Only good
>> if you plan to be in NOC, but don't have any plans for NOC type work.
>> Wireless : Not interested, No demand.
>> 
>> Storage :- No experience, no
>> motivation. Not sure of if any demand for this too.
>> 
>> Above are only my views
>> and might be even 90% wrong specially about demand section.
>> 
>> 
>> Folks Please
>> provide your inputs, keeping US market and my skill set (CCIE SP domain) in
>> mind.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance for all your input.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> JB
>> 
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