Re: CCIE R&S Discouraged

My thoughts on this are: Are you a better engineer for having studied
this for the last 2 years? Are you doing it only for the digits?

I can say I still want the digits, but I am 10x the engineer I was
before I began this journey. I owe my current position entirely to my
studies. So yes it is discouraging that people cheat, but in the real
world those people will get weeded out. You will have the confidence
to say, "Yes Sir, I absolutely know BGP" in your next interview.

-Marc

On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Joe Sanchez <marco207p_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> All,
>
> I wanted to send a quick email out to all of you to get your take, and to
> hopefully give me some words of wisdom.
>
> I recently took my CCIE R&S Lab exam at RTP on Nov 9, 2011; I failed and
> I'm ok with that, I knew going into the exam that I was not 100% however I
> scheduled the lab months prior, set my goals and tried to reach them before
> taking the lab. I fell behind on a few of the goals that I set prior to
> taking the exam, but I felt I needed to go ahead and take the lab and get
> the butterflies and overall anxiety out of my system.
>
> I know what I need to do, so that my next attempt at the lab is successful,
> and I'm working on those now.
>
> So here is the part were my discouragement comes into play and really my
> overall mindset to stop studying for this exam and move on with my life, as
> we all know that studying for the CCIE takes away your life for a while.
> I've been studying for the CCIE off and on for almost 2yrs, and there have
> been a few breaks in my studies as I have family and work obligations like
> most of you all, "i digress".
>
> I came back from RTP and I had a few questions on my lab that I absolutely
> had no freakin clue, so I set out looking through the CCO Doc CD and trying
> to figure out the answers to the questions and I read every page on this
> particular subject however, I couldn't find solutions the lab wanted. So I
> set out in the world of google and began using search strings to find my
> answer, and what do you know I found several scenarios from people that
> were pretty close, so I modified my search string and began my
> seek-and-find again. After searching for a few minutes more for my answer,
> up pops a website URL in Chinese that redirects me to a website that has a
> document in adobe web viewer so I think lets read this and see what I
> find. I begin to read the document and see that it is a lab and as I
> scroll down I begin to see the network topology and physical and logical
> layout and the beginning general guideline requirements and I say to myself
> "wow, this is very familiar" as I continue reading I again say " this is
> way to close" and as I scroll down I see a topology that looks exactly like
> the topology I had on my Lab, so I stop... dig out my notebook, "they one I
> drew my LAB topology in, at the airport after my LAB exam" and I say "What
> the hell" this topology is 100% exact to my LAB in RTP and not only that
> but 100% ip addressing, vlan names and numbers, IGP AS numbers, BGP AS
> numbers, "yes" i continued to read and yes everything, again everything was
> 100% my LAB " I found the answer to my question". So I stopped... stared
> at the wall for hmmm... a long time then said "Why" Why do I nearly kill
> myself studying trying to get these digits when people are out there
> cheating, but not only cheating but killing the reputation of a Expert
> community because they feel that if they get the Digits they can make more
> money than what they deserve. So I went home, because I don't study at
> home as this is distraction most of them, and I asked myself the entire
> ride home to whether or not a should continue.
>
> So I suppose my Question is to the whole community here is "should we even
> continue", I've spent thousands or dollars getting equipment, labbooks,
> video's not to mention the hours, but what is the point if people are
> cheating and Employers know that people are cheating, and I've seen this
> over the last few years that some CCIE's don't have a clue.
>
> I'm frustrated, p'd off, and discouraged.
>
> I await your thoughts and reply's.
>
> Please do not email me or request that I give you the website or name of
> the company that is supplying the exact labs, as I will make you publicly
> known for asking in this email group and forums. Really it's not worth it.
>
> Joe Sanchez (Chicago, IL)
>
>
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