Re: CCIE R&S Discouraged

Hi Joe,

God has given us a beautiful life .Many factors plays an important role in
the happiness in our life thats why we are responsible for some
responsbilities in our life.If u are unable to pass ur CCIE no probs .i
know some certified IEs still serching for good jobs some non IEs which are
well settled.
I passed my IE in first attempt by the grace of Almighty but everyday i am
learning new things .it will be grateful if people will call you EXPERT
rather than just certified....Expert + Cert plus point
On Dec 3, 2011 6:23 PM, "marc abel" <marcabel_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> My thoughts on this are: Are you a better engineer for having studied
> this for the last 2 years? Are you doing it only for the digits?
>
> I can say I still want the digits, but I am 10x the engineer I was
> before I began this journey. I owe my current position entirely to my
> studies. So yes it is discouraging that people cheat, but in the real
> world those people will get weeded out. You will have the confidence
> to say, "Yes Sir, I absolutely know BGP" in your next interview.
>
> -Marc
>
> On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Joe Sanchez <marco207p_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > All,
> >
> > I wanted to send a quick email out to all of you to get your take, and to
> > hopefully give me some words of wisdom.
> >
> > I recently took my CCIE R&S Lab exam at RTP on Nov 9, 2011; I failed and
> > I'm ok with that, I knew going into the exam that I was not 100% however
> I
> > scheduled the lab months prior, set my goals and tried to reach them
> before
> > taking the lab. I fell behind on a few of the goals that I set prior to
> > taking the exam, but I felt I needed to go ahead and take the lab and get
> > the butterflies and overall anxiety out of my system.
> >
> > I know what I need to do, so that my next attempt at the lab is
> successful,
> > and I'm working on those now.
> >
> > So here is the part were my discouragement comes into play and really my
> > overall mindset to stop studying for this exam and move on with my life,
> as
> > we all know that studying for the CCIE takes away your life for a while.
> > I've been studying for the CCIE off and on for almost 2yrs, and there
> have
> > been a few breaks in my studies as I have family and work obligations
> like
> > most of you all, "i digress".
> >
> > I came back from RTP and I had a few questions on my lab that I
> absolutely
> > had no freakin clue, so I set out looking through the CCO Doc CD and
> trying
> > to figure out the answers to the questions and I read every page on this
> > particular subject however, I couldn't find solutions the lab wanted.
> So I
> > set out in the world of google and began using search strings to find my
> > answer, and what do you know I found several scenarios from people that
> > were pretty close, so I modified my search string and began my
> > seek-and-find again. After searching for a few minutes more for my
> answer,
> > up pops a website URL in Chinese that redirects me to a website that has
> a
> > document in adobe web viewer so I think lets read this and see what I
> > find. I begin to read the document and see that it is a lab and as I
> > scroll down I begin to see the network topology and physical and logical
> > layout and the beginning general guideline requirements and I say to
> myself
> > "wow, this is very familiar" as I continue reading I again say " this is
> > way to close" and as I scroll down I see a topology that looks exactly
> like
> > the topology I had on my Lab, so I stop... dig out my notebook, "they
> one I
> > drew my LAB topology in, at the airport after my LAB exam" and I say
> "What
> > the hell" this topology is 100% exact to my LAB in RTP and not only that
> > but 100% ip addressing, vlan names and numbers, IGP AS numbers, BGP AS
> > numbers, "yes" i continued to read and yes everything, again everything
> was
> > 100% my LAB " I found the answer to my question". So I stopped... stared
> > at the wall for hmmm... a long time then said "Why" Why do I nearly kill
> > myself studying trying to get these digits when people are out there
> > cheating, but not only cheating but killing the reputation of a Expert
> > community because they feel that if they get the Digits they can make
> more
> > money than what they deserve. So I went home, because I don't study at
> > home as this is distraction most of them, and I asked myself the entire
> > ride home to whether or not a should continue.
> >
> > So I suppose my Question is to the whole community here is "should we
> even
> > continue", I've spent thousands or dollars getting equipment, labbooks,
> > video's not to mention the hours, but what is the point if people are
> > cheating and Employers know that people are cheating, and I've seen this
> > over the last few years that some CCIE's don't have a clue.
> >
> > I'm frustrated, p'd off, and discouraged.
> >
> > I await your thoughts and reply's.
> >
> > Please do not email me or request that I give you the website or name of
> > the company that is supplying the exact labs, as I will make you publicly
> > known for asking in this email group and forums. Really it's not worth
> it.
> >
> > Joe Sanchez (Chicago, IL)
> >
> >
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Received on Sat Dec 03 2011 - 18:35:03 ART