RE: OT: CCDE Overview

No results yet. They mail you the results and it is not an immediate
timeframe.

Keep in mind that this is the first generation of this exam - I am sure the
original CCIE exam wasn't the funnest for people. I remember taking the two
day and it had all sorts of crazy items including token ring, appletalk,
OSPF, ATM, DDR and DLSW. Luckily IP networking has changed a lot in the last
10 years so that the current subjects are more real-world however they again
have a Cisco twist.

When it comes to this exam I really looked at it like I did my college
degree and getting the CISSP. For my college courses I always looked at
ratemyprofessor to glean what I could regarding my future teacher's approach
to teaching and life. This saved me in a few classes as I wrote papers
contrary to what I believe however it would make the professor happy by
writing it towards "their beliefs" - got "A" grades as a result. As for the
CISSP, the idea to pass is "an inch deep and a mile wide". This translates
to a question approach where you see a higher level answer and a very
technical answer and you can usually choose the high level to pass as the
technical one has some merit however it is a red herring.

I think version 2 should hopefully help and I would expect more vendors
coming out of the woodwork with classes and solutions. Cisco did expand the
testing locations as well in this last test.

Travis

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Pavel Bykov
Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 2:27 AM
To: Travis Niedens
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Subject: Re: OT: CCDE Overview

Travis, how did you do? Do you have your results yet?
Your description only put me off even more. I really see value in design
studies, but everything I hear about this exam make me not like it :(

On Sat, Oct 22, 2011 at 1:49 AM, Travis Niedens <niedentj_at_hotmail.com>wrote:

> All, I just finished the CCDE practical. I will not be stating
> anything that breaks NDA however I can say that you might have a
> headache when done. I really wanted to write this as I had a few
> people who were willing to break the silence and give sagely advice.
> Something tells me that some want to keep this group of certified
> persons rather low and I did not see any real solutions / products
> from any training partner to help with this test.
> That
> being said... Key items: 1. Be prepared to not be allowed tasty and
> caffeine beverages at your station. You are not allowed anything other
> than your ID and provided items. 2. Use the restroom as necessary. It
> is a very secure test environment and it takes time to leave and
> return. 3. You will be reading A LOT ! Be patient. Take notes as well
> - it will keep you on track. 4. When studying the 17 books on the list
> from CCO always keep in your mind "WHY?".
> Review case studies in the books, review some of Cisco's designs for
> different environments and then consider how they came to those
> choices. 5. Use the comment section. I gave some input and I certainly
> think that they need it on this exam. 6. Treat subjects during study
> equally. I know in the CCIE there are those that are "sacrificial
> lambs" - we know they are rarely present on the lab and if they are
> they are worth vert little points. Don't do this on the CCDE. Keep in
> mind that you do not have to configure features. 7. Think like a
> designer and keep in mind how things build on each other. Networks are
> like expensive onions... Hopefully I passed. 2.0 is out after this
attempt.
> Good Luck to all ! Travis
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