RE: CCIE

From: Steve Means <smeans_at_ccbootcamp.com>
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 16:05:30 -0700

Dude, 80k in DC is NOT what you should be making as an IE! Maybe it's
nice if your company sponsored you for a visa/green card but those wages
are LOW for DC. The company might offer a good work environment, but I
think you'll find that a lot of places aren't rough for an IE to work
at, especially if they need your number associated.

Yes overall lifestyle is a consideration. I've more than once turned
down or choose a lower paying option that allowed more work from home
and flexible hours. But in your case if you like the place you're at
then tell them you need a pay bump or you're going to take the other
job. Do it nicely, and maybe accept something a little bit lower if they
won't exactly match.

Always remember, you don't get what you deserve, you get what you
negotiate. ;)

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
John Bevan
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2011 8:36 AM
To: Joe Astorino
Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: CCIE

Hi All,

Thanks a lot for your inputs.

To make things more clear I am
currently getting 80K base + 10k Bonus. 70% of time I work from home and
have
stock options, medical benefit. Right now I am based in DC metro area.
Offer
what I am getting from consulting company is around 140K + health
benefit.
I
am thinking 90k in DC metro Area for CCIE is low, that is a reason I am
thinking of changing. But due to other benefits with my present company,
I am
not able to make up my mind. That's the reason wanted to get inputs from
experience of other folks how to go with it and what should I look for
in long
terms.

Thanks.
John.

________________________________
From: Joe Astorino
<joeastorino1982_at_gmail.com>
To: John Bevan <john.bevan_at_ymail.com>
Cc:
"ccielab_at_groupstudy.com" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
Sent: Friday, October 7,
2011 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: CCIE

It's all about balance man. Money is not
everything, but it is important : ) With that being said, you have to
weigh
the entire package. How much is working for a great company worth to
you? 50
- 60% of what you make? I would advise you look at the big picture to
help
you make a clear decision. Write stuff down. I was in a job hunt not
too
long ago myself. My decision on where to go was based on some of these
things:

- Base salary
- Bonus potential
- Medical / Health benefit package
-
Location
- Stress Level of the job as compared to others (hours I would be
working, how much the job challenged me, etc)
- Family

All these things
factor in. Now, 50-60% pay increase is going to be real tough for me to
turn
down personally. From experience, I think you are kidding yourself if
you
think your current company is going to eventually increase your pay by
50-60%. Maybe by the time you retire : ) Companies that hire you in at
a
"low" wage will keep you there for eternity. When I went from CCNA to
CCNP
all the sudden the company wanted me to stop doing cable drop runs and
start
configuring core and distribution layer devices and work on complex
topology
designs, but guess what? They didn't want to pay for that. Why? They
hired a
CCNA for a low price. Just because I got a CCNP didn't mean they were
hiking
my salary any more than the crappy 3% a year for living expenses. So, I
moved
on at the time. These are things you have to think about.

In summary, you
need to look at the entire package and find out what is most important
for you
and what is best for you and your family. Additionally, I don't think
any
company is going to bump you that much in a short period of time.

HTH

On
Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 9:56 AM, John Bevan <john.bevan_at_ymail.com> wrote:

Hi
folks,
>
>I am confused about job change and want to know from the experience
of other folks who might have been through similar situation. I am a
CCIE
certified engineer working at Consulting engineer with the topmost(No
prize
for guessing) network company from last 5 years (having total 8 years
experience). I came to US about a year back through intra-company
transfer.
Now my issues is that present company though is one of the best company
to
work for in networking industry but they are not paying me at level what
experienced CCIE should be paid at(though a one of top most performer).
Now I
have few opportunities with some consulting companies in US who are
ready to
pay me 50-60% hike but these companies though good in consulting but not
at
that level my present company is.
>
>So my dilemma is that I am not able to
decide if I should go for hike and leave my present company or instead
of
Salary I should remain with reputed company and wait for at-least 3-5
years
more to reach this salary level being offered to me right now. So
basically
want comparison between salary level and company reputation.
>
>
>Also what
should be average good salary in US for CCIE with 8 years experience, so
that
I can decide that if I am right now paid too low ?
>
>
>Thanks in advance for
your inputs to help me clear my dilemma.
>
>
>Regards,
>John
>
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Regards,
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