Re: Company want CCIE, but they don't support my efforts

Hello Daniel,

"...but if
> B the CCIE does nothing for them..."

Maybe I have to add some clarification. I'm being sold by my hiring company as a consultant (or external partner) to other companies. Maybe I'm not into marketing stuff, but I think selling a CCIE worth more than selling a CCNP / CCIP :)

So, event if they don't have a plan to go further on with Cisco partnership, I think they will gain something from my increased knowledge.

Thanks for reply!

Cheers,
Calin

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: daniel.dib_at_reaper.nu
> Sent: 09/12/11 11:02 AM
> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: Company want CCIE, but they don't support my efforts
>
> On Mon, 12 Sep 2011 04:09:08 -0400, Calin C. wrote:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I have here an ethical problem, more than a technical one and I said
> > to ask you guys, maybe somebody can give me an advice.
> >
> > Scenario is the following.
> >
> > For some time now I've been preparing for CCIE entirely on my own
> > costs (learning in my spare time, rack rental / equipment
> > acquisition,
> > exam fee, accomodation, travel...).I sit to an exam a while ago
> > (about
> > a year) and fail. Came back home and start preparing again.
> >
> > Now I want to sit to another lab in some months and I was thinking
> > that maybe a bootcamp will help. I've ask around some friends and one
> > of them confirmed that he was in a bootcamp (company name not
> > important, location Germany) and costs were about 20.000 euro ( 3
> > weeks bootcamp, accomodation, travel...). This is a lot of money for
> > me and I was thinking to ask my company to support me. I've found a
> > cheaper bootcamp (5 days around 2.200 euro + accomodation and travel,
> > let's say up to 3.500 euro). I've presented the above numbers to my
> > company and their answer was that they are willing to support me, but
> > only for the efective cost of the exam itself.
> >
> > Maybe it's important to say that I have other certifications (CCNP,
> > CCIP, CXFS...) which are registered to my company for Cisco
> > partnership.
> >
> > Finally we arrive to my issue:
> >
> > I will keep on supporting my way to CCIE on my own costs (let's say
> > that the 5 days bootcamp I could afford to pay by my own, or buy the
> > workbooks and practice on my own rack). I this case, my question is,
> > if I will get a CCIE number, this will be automatically assigned to
> > the company that I'm registered with? I've tried to explain to them
> > that if this is the case, I would find it a little bit unfair to use
> > my number. The cost of the exam itself is nothing compared to the
> > rest
> > of efforts.
> >
> > Please don't get me wrong. I'm fully satisfied with the company that
> > I'm working on and I don't want to leave it. From financial and
> > social
> > perspective I'm happy with my position. I just want them to
> > understand
> > that nothing in life is free and CCIE comes with a costs that I have
> > to either recover somehow or they need to sponsor my efforts.
> >
> > Any input will be appreciated (especially to my question about CCIE
> > number - company relationship).
> >
> > Thanks for reading this long e-mail!
> >
> > Calin
>
> B Use the Partner Self Service tool available from the Partner portal to
> B see if you are assigned to a company. If you are then I suppose the CCIE
> B will automatically be accredited to that company. Going to a 20k
> B bootcamp seems like a waste, many people do pass the lab without a
> B bootcamp. If you want to go to one go for one that is for a week. That
> B should be enough. Does your company need your CCIE to acheive a certain
> B partner level? Maybe they don't and then they are not that interested in
> B paying for it? They should still pay you for the competence and skills
> B you have achieved when becoming a CCIE through a higher salary but if
> B the CCIE does nothing for them partnerwise maybe they are reluctant to
> B pay costs for it. Just trying to get a grip of your situation.
>
> B /Daniel
>
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Received on Mon Sep 12 2011 - 05:16:31 ART