Re: Should I request a reread?

You think there are some labs that are not passable? Can you expand on
this? I know it's a hard test, but you are the first person I have
ever heard put forth this theory. I'm curious what it's based on.

On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Aaron Weaver <aaron.weaver77_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> My suggestion would be to explain the question and both of your answers to
> the question if you are going for the reread. This would show you really
> understand all the options and the question and also point out to the reread
> proctor that maybe this question is worded strangely.
>
> As far as my overall interpretation of the reread I would make sure that
> troubleshooting can even be reevaluated. Do you have the reread bubble as
> an option on the score report? I know that rereads hardly ever succeed, but
> if I thought I was one question away I would do it. If you know for a fact
> that a single section will get you the pass it's worth it to me. You never
> know what you will get for the next test and in my opinion some of the labs
> are not passable. It might take several more attempts before you get the
> right lab for you.
>
> On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Wouter Prins <wp_at_null0.nl> wrote:
>
>> Next would be to make banners showing the conversations in irc style... ;)
>>
>> On 1 September 2011 18:39, Brad Edgeworth <edgie512_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I always try to document proctor conversations in my configs by using
>> > interface description.... that way, it is at least recorded during the
>> > event.
>> >
>> > On Aug 31, 2011 10:45 AM, "Jay McMickle" <jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> To Scott's point, re-reads are few and far between.
>> >>
>> >> At first, my answer was,
>> >> "No", take the exam again. Since your conversation was only verbal, it's
>> >> interpretation and arguementative.
>> >>
>> >> As I read more, you do have a compelling
>> >> reason, but that's where emotion comes into play. If you've got the
>> $250,
>> > by
>> >> all means.
>> >> However, without any documented conversation, all they can base
>> >> the re-read on is what you configured. They won't take into
>> consideration
>> > the
>> >> proctors answer.
>> >>
>> >> Keep on, keepin' on. You're that close and can only do
>> >> better next time, right?
>> >>
>> >> Let us hear those digits when you get them.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Jay McMickle- CCNP, CCSP, CCDP, MCSE
>> >> http://mycciepursuit.wordpress.com/
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> From: Shane K <shanekgs_at_gmail.com>
>> >> To:
>> >> Scott Morris <swm_at_emanon.com>
>> >> Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>> >> Sent: Wednesday,
>> >> August 31, 2011 5:31 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: Should I request a reread?
>> >>
>> >> Agreed - if
>> >> you feel that strongly then go for the reread and you won't be
>> >> charged when
>> >> they confirm you have passed.
>> >> If it were me, I'd use it as a learning
>> >> experience and go to the lab again.
>> >>
>> >> After all, isn't the exam there to test
>> >> everything - including how you react
>> >> under pressure and you ability to
>> >> understand what is being asked?
>> >>
>> >> Best of luck!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> S
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at
>> >> 1:59 AM, Scott Morris <swm_at_emanon.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> The percentage who go from
>> >> fail to pass is small, but it does happen.
>> >>> If you feel this strongly about
>> >> it, and can word it in a nice,
>> >>> professional-sounding detailed case then I
>> >> would think it worthwhile to
>> >>> request a re-read.
>> >>>
>> >>> The good news is that if
>> >> you DO pass on the re-read, they do not charge
>> >>> you the extra fee! :)
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >> Good luck!
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> *Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service
>> >> Provider) #4713,
>> >>>
>> >>> CCDE #2009::D, CCNP-Voice, JNCIE-SP #153, JNCIE-ER #102,
>> >> CISSP, et al.
>> >>>
>> >>> CCSI #21903, JNCI-SP, JNCI-ER
>> >>>
>> >>> swm_at_emanon.com
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >> Knowledge is power.
>> >>>
>> >>> Power corrupts.
>> >>>
>> >>> Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 8/30/11 8:22 PM, Josiah Chonko wrote:
>> >>> > I took the CCIE R&S in San
>> >> Jose on Monday and walked out knowing that
>> >>> > I had passed. During the TS
>> >> section I completed all tickets and
>> >>> > verified them 100% with 30 minutes to
>> >> spare. I spent this 30 minutes
>> >>> > double, triple checking every part of
>> >> every ticket, reviewing the
>> >>> > rules and restrictions to verify I did not
>> >> violate anything. Come to
>> >>> > find out, I failed the troubleshooting section
>> >> and passed the
>> >>> > configuration. I could not believe that I failed the
>> >> troubleshooting
>> >>> > and it took me some time to figure out why I failed but I
>> >> believe it
>> >>> > was because of misinformation from the proctor. I had asked the
>> >>> > proctor a question regarding one of the tickets which I believe he
>> >>> >
>> >> gave me the wrong information on. Due to NDA I can not tell you what
>> >>> > the
>> >> ticket was or what the misinformation he gave me was. It was
>> >>> > simple
>> >> clarification question on what the end result of a question
>> >>> > should be. It
>> >> had nothing to do with my technical knowledge but
>> >>> > interpretation of the
>> >> question. Our conversation is below:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Me: "Is the question asking me
>> >> to do A or B?"
>> >>> > Proctor: "Can you make B happen?"
>> >>> > Me: "Yes"
>> >>> >
>> >> Proctor: "Then do that"
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Looking back on that conversation and the
>> >> ticket itself, I realized
>> >>> > that he gave me the wrong information. I was
>> >> supposed to do it the
>> >>> > other way which is why I missed that question. If I
>> >> had done it the
>> >>> > other way, I would have received credit for that ticket
>> >> and therefore
>> >>> > would have passed the exam. He seemed to be a little unsure
>> >> himself
>> >>> > about whether I should do it one way or another. If he had graded
>> >> the
>> >>> > lab himself, I believe he would have gave me credit for it since he
>> >>>
>> >>> told me to do it that way.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > So my question is: Should I request a
>> >> reread or just reschedule for
>> >>> > another attempt? Has anyone done a reread
>> >> and is this the type of
>> >>> > thing that would take a grade from FAIL to PASS?
>> >> I noticed on the
>> >>> > page that when you request a reread, they provide you
>> >> with a place for
>> >>> > comments where I could describe, in detail, this same
>> >> scenario and
>> >>> > hope that they would talk to my proctor who could confirm our
>> >>> > conversation.
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
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