Re: Should I request a reread?

No the proctor is also there to help clarify questions that are
unclear. This interview with proctor Ben Ng is a bit dated, but I
think his answers still apply.

Noteably:

My official job title is customer support engineer. It fits because my
primary role is to provide support to candidates taking the lab exam.
This support takes a variety of forms. One is to clarify the lab exam
questions for candidates--so long as their query isn't really an
end-run to find out the answer! Also, I fix equipment should a
hardware or software failure occur. Basically, I view my job as doing
whatever is necessary to make the exam less stressful for candidates,
short of providing beer and cigarettes.

http://www.cisco.com/asiapac/clp/articles/ccie_exam_proctor.shtml

-Marc

On Thu, Sep 1, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Pramod G <learn02earn_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> Please correct my understanding the role of proctor in the exam..I' am
> thinking he is there to help us in case of any issues during the lab but not
> to help us in understanding a question.
> The reason to ask this question is to know whether or not to ask Proctor any
> clarification further.
>
> On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 8:57 PM, Jay McMickle <jay.mcmickle_at_yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>> To Scott's point, re-reads are few and far between.
>>
>> At first, my answer was,
>> "No", take the exam again. Since your conversation was only verbal, it's
>> interpretation and arguementative.
>>
>> As I read more, you do have a compelling
>> reason, but that's where emotion comes into play. If you've got the $250,
>> by
>> all means.
>> However, without any documented conversation, all they can base
>> the re-read on is what you configured. They won't take into consideration
>> the
>> proctors answer.
>>
>> Keep on, keepin' on. You're that close and can only do
>> better next time, right?
>>
>> Let us hear those digits when you get them.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jay McMickle- CCNP, CCSP, CCDP, MCSE
>> http://mycciepursuit.wordpress.com/
>>
>>
>> From: Shane K <shanekgs_at_gmail.com>
>> To:
>> Scott Morris <swm_at_emanon.com>
>> Cc: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>> Sent: Wednesday,
>> August 31, 2011 5:31 AM
>> Subject: Re: Should I request a reread?
>>
>> Agreed - if
>> you feel that strongly then go for the reread and you won't be
>> charged when
>> they confirm you have passed.
>> If it were me, I'd use it as a learning
>> experience and go to the lab again.
>>
>> After all, isn't the exam there to test
>> everything - including how you react
>> under pressure and you ability to
>> understand what is being asked?
>>
>> Best of luck!
>>
>>
>> S
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at
>> 1:59 AM, Scott Morris <swm_at_emanon.com> wrote:
>>
>> > The percentage who go from
>> fail to pass is small, but it does happen.
>> > If you feel this strongly about
>> it, and can word it in a nice,
>> > professional-sounding detailed case then I
>> would think it worthwhile to
>> > request a re-read.
>> >
>> > The good news is that if
>> you DO pass on the re-read, they do not charge
>> > you the extra fee! :)
>> >
>> >
>> Good luck!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > *Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service
>> Provider) #4713,
>> >
>> > CCDE #2009::D, CCNP-Voice, JNCIE-SP #153, JNCIE-ER #102,
>> CISSP, et al.
>> >
>> > CCSI #21903, JNCI-SP, JNCI-ER
>> >
>> > swm_at_emanon.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> Knowledge is power.
>> >
>> > Power corrupts.
>> >
>> > Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......
>> >
>> >
>> > On 8/30/11 8:22 PM, Josiah Chonko wrote:
>> > > I took the CCIE R&S in San
>> Jose on Monday and walked out knowing that
>> > > I had passed. During the TS
>> section I completed all tickets and
>> > > verified them 100% with 30 minutes to
>> spare. I spent this 30 minutes
>> > > double, triple checking every part of
>> every ticket, reviewing the
>> > > rules and restrictions to verify I did not
>> violate anything. Come to
>> > > find out, I failed the troubleshooting section
>> and passed the
>> > > configuration. I could not believe that I failed the
>> troubleshooting
>> > > and it took me some time to figure out why I failed but I
>> believe it
>> > > was because of misinformation from the proctor. I had asked the
>> > > proctor a question regarding one of the tickets which I believe he
>> > >
>> gave me the wrong information on. Due to NDA I can not tell you what
>> > > the
>> ticket was or what the misinformation he gave me was. It was
>> > > simple
>> clarification question on what the end result of a question
>> > > should be. It
>> had nothing to do with my technical knowledge but
>> > > interpretation of the
>> question. Our conversation is below:
>> > >
>> > > Me: "Is the question asking me
>> to do A or B?"
>> > > Proctor: "Can you make B happen?"
>> > > Me: "Yes"
>> > >
>> Proctor: "Then do that"
>> > >
>> > > Looking back on that conversation and the
>> ticket itself, I realized
>> > > that he gave me the wrong information. I was
>> supposed to do it the
>> > > other way which is why I missed that question. If I
>> had done it the
>> > > other way, I would have received credit for that ticket
>> and therefore
>> > > would have passed the exam. He seemed to be a little unsure
>> himself
>> > > about whether I should do it one way or another. If he had graded
>> the
>> > > lab himself, I believe he would have gave me credit for it since he
>> >
>> > told me to do it that way.
>> > >
>> > > So my question is: Should I request a
>> reread or just reschedule for
>> > > another attempt? Has anyone done a reread
>> and is this the type of
>> > > thing that would take a grade from FAIL to PASS?
>> I noticed on the
>> > > page that when you request a reread, they provide you
>> with a place for
>> > > comments where I could describe, in detail, this same
>> scenario and
>> > > hope that they would talk to my proctor who could confirm our
>> > > conversation.
>> > >
>> > >
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