Re: CCIE study tips

From: Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 17:11:36 -0700

To be honest I do not believe that you would spend 1000s of dollars on
Vendor workbooks, the cost is typically below 1000 dollars for few thousand
pages of comprehensive workbook.

Vendors go through an unbelievable amount of work to product a complete
reference guide/workbook that help the students understand the ins and outs
of a protocol, you actually see the protocols use and the protocols
behavior in simple examples.

No one said that you MUST use a vendors book. Some students say that I
like to use Cisco press books instead of a vendors book, but I guess they
are another vendor as well, am I correct? The difference is that they do not
offer Boot camps.

Anyways, I like to congratulate the following students for passing their
CCIE in the past two weeks or so:

Marcin Zadura -- -- -- - 26309 CCIE Security, a dual CCIE.

Abdullah-Al-Malki -- -- 29703 R&S

Andrew MacKintosh -- 29832 R&S

Dan Pedonesi -- -- -- -- 29911 R&S

On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 3:29 PM, JB Poplawski <jb.poplawski_at_gmail.com>wrote:

> I'm sure the vendors on the board can give you some direction.
>
> You'll need some foundational guidance (Doyle, Odum, Kennedy, in
> general all of the CCIE Cisco Press books you mentioend) are a good
> read. It's A LOT to read, but it will give you a good theory about
> things, as they are the bible for the CCIE.
>
> After that you will most definitely need a Vendor Workbook. In some
> cases more than one. I have 3, have only gone through two of them.
> I've seen people put in 800 hours of lab time. I've put in a ton,
> just haven't tracked it.
>
> It is an expensive process, but one well worth it. I'm not sure there
> are any IE's (on the new blue print at least) that have gone in
> without some form of lab training. I'm not sure any job experience
> tests you on every technology. I could be mistaken and if I am,
> please send me jobs leads as you would be one ridiculous engineer.
>
> This isn't a lottery, get rich quick scheme. You're going to have to
> work for this and hustle. If you don't there's a chance you land a
> job and fail. This certifies you as an expert, hence why it's a
> challenge and expensive.
>
> Hope this helps. All of the vendors on this forum do a remarkable
> job. Some have blogs, some take personal calls and give you guidance
> and support. They cost $$$ because they're worth it. If you want
> quality, you're going to have to pay for it.
> JB
>
> BTW - The exam is $1,500 so buy used books! :)
>
> On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Alireza Rajwani
> <alireza.rajwani_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > Thanks for the info but specially for lab is this book enough I mean to
> say
> > we need to practise for lab and every ccie candidate knows well known
> vendor
> > like ine and ipexpert.Do we really need to depend on this vendor for
> > practise lab as in most cases i have heard abt workbooks do we have any
> > other option that will help us out instead of spending those thousand
> > dollars on vendors workbook.
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 3:31 AM, JB Poplawski <jb.poplawski_at_gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Odom's QoS too!
> >>
> >> On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 4:59 PM, marc abel <marcabel_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Those are all great books. You may need to also add a book on MPLS and
> >> > possibly multicast.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 4:54 PM, <alireza.rajwani_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> I would like to know if jeffdoyle vol 1 and 2 for routing and bcmsn
> >> >> switching
> >> >> from ciso press enough for ccie lab or do we need to refer to more
> >> >> books.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net
> >> >>
> >> >>
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