Re: CCIE lab fee raised!

Dear all,

I think at the end Juniper Certificates will get more value than Cisco due to lower No. Of JNCIE compared to CCIE,also the large Deployment and demand these Days for Juniper routers in ISP companies....I saw JUNIP Engineers with 2 years experience get very good jop offers and better salary than CCNP Engineers.

Thanks,
Osama

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-----Original Message-----
From: Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com>
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 20:07:34
To: <yuribank_at_gmail.com>
Cc: <bhmccie_at_gmail.com>; <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
Subject: Re: CCIE lab fee raised!

I will ask again - have you actually taken a test in PPS? I have (CCDE
Practical). It was something else.

On the other hand, CCIE team (regardless of what other people have
said here) very explicitly stated there were no plans to repeat
Pearson testing for the CCIE lab any time soon.

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On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 10:28, Yuri Bank <yuribank_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> Regardless of the fact they have "Professional Centers", I think there is
> some concerns about the standards they would held to, the cheating, and
> overall value of the lab. Nobody wants a McDonalds happy meal CCIE. Also, is
> Pearson going to provide a CCIE Proctor on-site? I cannot imagine the
> frustration of having to speak with the Proctor via chat. Before anyone
> tries to rationalize this, consider for a moment how much easier and
> *faster* it can be to articulate a question in words rather than writing.
>
> my 2cents.
>
> -Yuri
>
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> This subject keeps creepeing up once in a while...
>>
>> When Cisco talks about Pearson for CCIE, they talk about Pearson
>> Professional Centers. Google them... They're not in a mall ;-)
>>
>> --
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>> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
>>
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>> :: Sent from my tablet. Apologies for errors and brevity. ::
>>
>> On Aug 3, 2011, at 6:41, -Hammer- <bhmccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Guys, I gotta ask why some of you are irritated with the cost and T&E? I
>> > for one am against local pearson testing.
>> >
>> > $1500 for a lab exam cert that in many places (not all) will guarantee a
>> > six figure salary? DONE. I've taken the lab several times. They have
>> > some of my companies money and at least once I paid for it myself. Will
>> > I do it again? YES. Do I like paying $1500? NO. But will I again? YES.
>> >
>> > A couple of days off work and a flight and hotel at a testing center?
>> > DONE. Would it be easier to go down to the mall and sit in a closet on
>> > wheels that looks like one of those stupid photo booths? YES. Do I want
>> > that? NO. Do I like to fly? NO. Will I do it again? YES.
>> >
>> > Most folks in the community still agree that the CCIE is one of the top
>> > certs out there. Part of that effort is the process of getting it. YOU
>> > HAVE TO WANT IT. If I could take off work the next three Fridays in a
>> > row and go down to the mall and hammer away the basic odds say that
>> > eventually I'll pass. I DON'T WANT THAT FOR ANYONE. EVER.
>> >
>> > It does scare me that business seems to be getting in the way of the
>> > exam. I actually preferred the old two day exam that was hands on and
>> > you had the proctor sit down with you afterwards and tell you what you
>> > did right and wrong. For the money I feel you deserve a better
>> > explanation. But those days are gone. Hopefully Cisco is making the
>> > right decisions...
>> >
>> > -Hammer-
>> >
>> > "I was a normal American nerd"
>> > -Jack Herer
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 08/03/2011 05:56 AM, Narbik Kocharians wrote:
>> >> Kenneth,
>> >>
>> >> You are so close. It stands for Cisco Certified BS Artist.
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 1:29 AM, Kenneth Ratliff<lists_at_cluebat.net>
>> >> B wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
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>> >>>> Other discussion aside, could you tell me what a CCBSA is? I could
>> >>>> come up with something, but it does intrigue me what you meant :D
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>> Oh, I'm willing to bet that the BS portion of that probably stands for
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