RE: Do the Looming Cisco Lay Offs Affect You?

Plenty of jobs in both (SJ and SFV).. :)

-----Original Message-----
From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
Scott Morris
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 1:10 PM
To: marc edwards
Cc: Larry Letterman; Karl Young; eliteccie_at_gmail.com;
john.matijevic_at_gmail.com; ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
Subject: Re: Do the Looming Cisco Lay Offs Affect You?

Just a little note - SILICON valley is in northern california, SILICONE
valley is in southern california.

;)

Scott

On 7/19/11 3:22 PM, marc edwards wrote:
> I guess there is some irony in this conversation. The layoff daze is
> never fun and it got to a point where I could not stand it at the
> government X position I was holding. To put it plainly, I was not a
> good enough politician to stay around so I checked the market out. I
> was able to get an offer from Cisco but the layoff 'buzz' still
> ringing greatly by my previous job and hearing that is what looms over
> Cisco in the future immediately turned me off. The good news is that
> there is a strong enough economy in Silicone Valley to support network
> techs outside of Cisco. I chose Plantronics as they seem to have very
> healthy financials (low inventory/high revenue) , treat associates
> (the inside term for an employee) very well, and is headquartered by
> the beach (probably the best perk!). Yes I chose not to go with Cisco
> because in too many ways it also might be overrun by the political
> guillotine. But then again, everyone I meet from Cisco seems much
> smarter than that ;-)
>
> Marc
>
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Larry Letterman <lletterm_at_cisco.com>
wrote:
>> Sorry scott...Maybe it works that way in your experience..not in mine
>> thru 3 layoffs within Cisco..we clean the bottom thru yearly
>> attrition..Not layoffs..and not all of cisco is engineering/Dev..
>>
>>
>> On 7/19/11 1:22 PM, "Scott Morris" <swm_at_emanon.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If that were true than all the layoffs would come from management
>>> and not engineering! Be realistic...
>>>
>>> Brown nosing is part of it, because it's all about perceived value.
>>> At least until someone else discovers that problems follow the
>>> person and not always just the economy.
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> PS. My kids still believe in the tooth fairy, so for all intents and
>>> purposes, so do I! :)
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/19/11 2:00 PM, Karl Young wrote:
>>>> John,
>>>>
>>>> I see you still believe that there is a Tooth Fairy. How do
>>>> you measure the bottom 5 % ? The cuts have NOTHING to do with Job
>>>> Performance it is all about the Stock Price. These Managers will
>>>> fire their Mothers if they are told to do it.The Brown Nosers are the
ones that survive.
>>>>
>>>> Karl.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Larry Letterman <lletterm_at_cisco.com>
>>>> <mailto:lletterm_at_cisco.com>
>>>> To: CCIE KID <eliteccie_at_gmail.com> <mailto:eliteccie_at_gmail.com> ;
>>>> john matijevic <john.matijevic_at_gmail.com>
>>>> <mailto:john.matijevic_at_gmail.com>
>>>> Cc: Scott Morris <swm_at_emanon.com> <mailto:swm_at_emanon.com> ;
>>>> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
>>>> Sent: Tue, Jul 19, 2011 1:33 pm
>>>> Subject: Re: Do the Looming Cisco Lay Offs Affect You?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> CCIE-Kid
>>>>
>>>> I might suggest you talk to your Mgr and see what he has to say
>>>> about your project and its importance in the mix of projects that
>>>> your group has to deliver..You can also inquire where you stand in
>>>> your group..Thats about all he can tell you at this time..It may
>>>> give you a better peace of mind ,
>>>>
>>>> Larry Letterman
>>>> data center Implementations
>>>> Cisco Systems..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 7/19/11 12:21 PM, "CCIE KID" <eliteccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Hi fellows ,
>>>>>> I dont want to lose this job . I love what i do and also this is
>>>>>> my first job in Cisco . I would regret getting fired from my
>>>>>> favourite company and
>> i
>>>>>> am praying to god that i should not be chucked out. I cant even
>>>>>> think what would happen after that. I am in a little bit stressed
>>>>>> about it. Lets see what will happen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 10:39 PM, john matijevic
>>>>>> <john.matijevic_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My advice is to do the best job you can and realize that
>>>>>>>> sometimes
>>>>>> business
>>>>>>>> decisions cannot be controlled by yourself. Maintain good
>>>>>>>> relationships,
>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> don't let the circumstances affect your job performance.
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 12:48 PM, CCIE KID <eliteccie_at_gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Scott,
>>>>>>>>>> I am working in some Internal Project like Testing Migration
>>>>>>>>>> Tools
>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>> CMA,
>>>>>>>>>> CCC and some other Migration tools.
>>>>>>>>>> I am not actually interacting with the customer directly.Mine
>>>>>>>>>> is to
>>>>>>> test
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> tools and then just deliver the bugs to the concern
>>>>>>>>>> development team
>>>>>>> . So
>>>>>>>>>> i
>>>>>>>>>> dont know whether i m in last 5 % list I am really fearing
>>>>>>>>>> about my position
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 10:00 PM, Scott Morris <swm_at_emanon.com>
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Always remember with things like this, it's the BOTTOM
>>>>>>>>>>>> 5%'ish where
>> cuts
>>>>>>>>>>>> happen. If you/your group are making your numbers and/or
providing
>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>> valuable service to the organization, then you are highly
>>>>>>>>>>>> unlikely
>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> get cut.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you're figuring out ways to better yourself for the
>>>>>>>>>>>> group, make
>> sure
>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone (mgr on up) knows about it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service
>>>>>>>>>>>> Provider)
>>>>>>>> #4713,
>>>>>>>>>>>> CCDE #2009::D, JNCIE-M #153, JNCIE-ER #102, CISSP, et al.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> CCSI #21903, JNCI-M, JNCI-ER
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> swm_at_emanon.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Knowledge is power.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Power corrupts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/19/11 12:21 PM, CCIE KID wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi fellows,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes Cisco is firing people from all quarters. I am really
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fearing
>>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> job in Cisco Systems . Don't know what is going to happen.for
me .
>>>>>>>>>> Really
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guys please pray for me . I dont want to lose my job in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cisco. I
>> am
>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Advanced Services team.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Please guys pray for me . I want Cisco to overcome this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> obstacle
>> in
>>>>>>>>>> his
>>>>>>>>>>>> path
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 7:06 PM, Eman <eman_at_ccieflyer.com>
wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cisco Channel Partners are still hiring and we have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> signed up
>> over
>>>>>>>>>> 300
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to-date as clients. Send me your resume
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eman_at_ccieflyer.com or
>> call
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 302-438-1681
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cisco announced Monday that it will reduce its
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> workforce by
>> 6,500
>>>>>>>>>>>> employees
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in the first half of August as part of its effort to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adjust its
>>>>>>>>>> business
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> increased competition in the switching and router market.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The reduction consists of 2,100 employees who have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> elected to
>> take
>>>>>>>>>> early
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> retirement and 4,400 who will be laid off. Cisco noted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the
>> ranks
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vice president and above will experience a 15%
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reduction in
>>>>>>>>>> force and
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> full-time, regular workforce a 9% reduction. Those in the
U.S.
>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> Canada
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will get the word in the first week of August. Other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> global
>>>>>>>>>> workforce
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reductions will occur soon after in compliance with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> local
>>>>>>>>>> regulations,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cisco
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> officials said.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.informationweek.com/news/infrastructure/switches/2
>>>>>>>>>> 31002056
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> T
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> CCIE KID
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