RE: MacBook pro - OT

On Tue, 2011-06-28 at 20:10 +0000, Joseph L. Brunner wrote:

Hi,

you did not read my last mail.

Sorry. In the last years i have never checked kernel drivers or other
dependencies. I just use it. I use vmware, graphics applicaions, sound
recording and do many other things.

time your are talking about is maybe 5 years ago. as i tell you and you
probably won't believe me. these days are long gone. so you haven't
checked it for a long time or your just repeating things you have heard.

seems like you got upset. i like to spend things in another way, then
giving someone money, who is about to track my gsm path.

i like to spend money into books for my son for example. thats a lot of
fun.

seems like you can not convince me. but you did not even want to i
think. thanks for your time.

have a good time.

> Windows 7 Pro is $189-$249 per license. I make more than that each HOUR I work.
>
> So, what is your time worth?
>
> You mean to honestly tell us you donbt spend time finding dependencies, kernel issues, package dependencies, messing with graphics drivers, or you're just so much better than everyone else at linux, that you can do all these things faster than I can download a msi file and run it?
>
> Sure... if that was true you would even waste your time with cisco... mainframe/sun os engineers I have met make 5x what CCIE makes... you would be off doing that
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of ocsic_at_web.de
> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 11:03 AM
> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: MacBook pro - OT
>
> just another comment. For the os i have to pay, so i will spend also time to earn the money. so i spend time for apple. thats not relly a argument, is it?
>
>
> -----UrsprC<ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: "Joseph L. Brunner" <joe_at_affirmedsystems.com>
> Gesendet: 28.06.2011 16:38:30
> An: "ocsic_at_web.de" <ocsic_at_web.de>, "ccielab_at_groupstudy.com" <ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> Betreff: RE: MacBook pro - OT
>
> >Because linux takes longer to do the same thing - and your time is not free
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of ocsic_at_web.de
> >Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 9:01 AM
> >To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> >Subject: Re: MacBook pro - OT
> >
> >I always wonder why this gets to some religious point.
> >
> >I'm using linux (first suse and now ubuntu) for about 10 years (private) now and i wonder also why people spend money for what they can get for free.
> >
> >For example, my os is up and running in about 3-4 seconds out of standby. I don't miss any programm.
> >
> >At work i rely on windows. It is the standard if you have to use many programms that will only work under windows. But at home i don't want to rely on a software/company that programms closed source and using ther customers to track their gsm data.
> >
> >Just my two cents.
> >
> >Peter
> >
> >-----UrsprC<ngliche Nachricht-----
> >Von: "Babatunde Sanda" <sbabatunde1_at_ca.rr.com>
> >Gesendet: 28.06.2011 14:34:37
> >An: "Vladimir Osipenko" <tiffolk_at_gmail.com>
> >Betreff: Re: MacBook pro - OT
> >
> >>Everybody at some point in this discussion has mentioned very valuable informative opinion about MAC and Windows. I personally believe at this point that it's self preference. Most of us have used nothing for years other than a Windows box (myself included). So we are kind of like staying in a comfort zone. If you can as a techie, I would suggest you familiarize yourself or buy a MAC at some point.
> >>
> >>I think windows machines is still well suited for the basic enterprise users. But for us techies, you've got to experience the MAC. Only then in my opinion will you truly appreciate the technology.
> >>
> >>My story:
> >>
> >>I started working for an ISP a little over a year ago. On my first day on the job they assigned me a MACbook pro "17. Gave me the basic orientation & let me loose. Here I was faced with this huge new network trying to understand their DWDM, R&S, video, Voice & I couldn't use the machine I was given. To say the list I felt super helpless/useless. Imagine your manager hyping your competency to your team and director & you are at your desk googling how to install a program on your machine. It was like learning the implication of right clicking as to left clicking for the first time. I was frustrated for I think 2 weeks as everyone mentioned. After that I got the basics down. Thank God most of my teammates had similar experiences a year before i started. I was begining to feel like a dorde. Today am not an expert yet but I am quick to open my MAC instead of my personal win7 laptop. Yes I carry both everywhere but use my MAC more. Programs like visio & others requiring explor!
> >> er, I use my Win7 laptop for but as mentioned, you can virtualize windows on your MAC. Now that am back on my IE pursuit, I run all my labs on my MAC. 13/15 routers running without the machine coughing.
> >>
> >>If you a seriously considering getting a new computer & you can curse silently without destroying anything around you while you learn, get a MAC. You wouldn't regret it. :)
> >>
> >>
> >> Babatunde Sanda B.Sc (Acct.) CCNP, CCVP, CCNA(R,S,V), MCSA, N+, A+.
> >>:: Sent from my Iphone. Apologies for errors and brevity. ::
> >>
> >>On Jun 27, 2011, at 11:11 PM, Vladimir Osipenko <tiffolk_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> My Mom always told me to through out all rotten fruits. I can't
> >>> imagine seeing a core of an apple every day on my table. It smells
> >>> disgusting after a week. I don't know how you guys cope with it.
> >>>
> >>> PC doesn't have such a problem.
> >>> =)
> >>>
> >>> On 28 June 2011 08:25, Thomas Perrier <thomas_at_perrier.name> wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 3:38 AM, -Hammer- <bhmccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> One thing I don't see anyone mentioning (I may have missed it) is Active
> >>>>> Directory. Until OSX (or IOS (IPAD)) have native AD integration they
> >>>>> will never make it in large enterprise environments as anything more
> >>>>> than a trinket. Yes, Cisco and a few others support them in a large
> >>>>> scale. But take that model outside of the technology vertical and Apple
> >>>>> is at a loss. Medical? FI? Government? They all need their AD and base a
> >>>>> lot of their security and policy around it. Without AD it's just a toy
> >>>>> for the executives and a few folks in I.T...
> >>>>
> >>>> Actually, OS X has had AD integration for years, at least for user
> >>>> authentication and drive mapping. Of course no GPOs, etc.
> >>>>
> >>>> -Thomas
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