Re: MacBook pro - OT

Last i checked, CCIEs make 8 - 10 dollars an hour, especially the ones that
have multiple certs and teach from time to time.

On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 1:10 PM, Joseph L. Brunner
<joe_at_affirmedsystems.com>wrote:

> Windows 7 Pro is $189-$249 per license. I make more than that each HOUR I
> work.
>
> So, what is your time worth?
>
> You mean to honestly tell us you donb t spend time finding dependencies,
> kernel issues, package dependencies, messing with graphics drivers, or
> you're just so much better than everyone else at linux, that you can do all
> these things faster than I can download a msi file and run it?
>
> Sure... if that was true you would even waste your time with cisco...
> mainframe/sun os engineers I have met make 5x what CCIE makes... you would
> be off doing that
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> ocsic_at_web.de
> Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 11:03 AM
> To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> Subject: Re: MacBook pro - OT
>
> just another comment. For the os i have to pay, so i will spend also time
> to earn the money. so i spend time for apple. thats not relly a argument, is
> it?
>
>
> -----UrsprC<ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: "Joseph L. Brunner" <joe_at_affirmedsystems.com>
> Gesendet: 28.06.2011 16:38:30
> An: "ocsic_at_web.de" <ocsic_at_web.de>, "ccielab_at_groupstudy.com" <
> ccielab_at_groupstudy.com>
> Betreff: RE: MacBook pro - OT
>
> >Because linux takes longer to do the same thing - and your time is not
> free
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: nobody_at_groupstudy.com [mailto:nobody_at_groupstudy.com] On Behalf Of
> ocsic_at_web.de
> >Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 9:01 AM
> >To: ccielab_at_groupstudy.com
> >Subject: Re: MacBook pro - OT
> >
> >I always wonder why this gets to some religious point.
> >
> >I'm using linux (first suse and now ubuntu) for about 10 years (private)
> now and i wonder also why people spend money for what they can get for free.
> >
> >For example, my os is up and running in about 3-4 seconds out of standby.
> I don't miss any programm.
> >
> >At work i rely on windows. It is the standard if you have to use many
> programms that will only work under windows. But at home i don't want to
> rely on a software/company that programms closed source and using ther
> customers to track their gsm data.
> >
> >Just my two cents.
> >
> >Peter
> >
> >-----UrsprC<ngliche Nachricht-----
> >Von: "Babatunde Sanda" <sbabatunde1_at_ca.rr.com>
> >Gesendet: 28.06.2011 14:34:37
> >An: "Vladimir Osipenko" <tiffolk_at_gmail.com>
> >Betreff: Re: MacBook pro - OT
> >
> >>Everybody at some point in this discussion has mentioned very valuable
> informative opinion about MAC and Windows. I personally believe at this
> point that it's self preference. Most of us have used nothing for years
> other than a Windows box (myself included). So we are kind of like staying
> in a comfort zone. If you can as a techie, I would suggest you familiarize
> yourself or buy a MAC at some point.
> >>
> >>I think windows machines is still well suited for the basic enterprise
> users. But for us techies, you've got to experience the MAC. Only then in my
> opinion will you truly appreciate the technology.
> >>
> >>My story:
> >>
> >>I started working for an ISP a little over a year ago. On my first day on
> the job they assigned me a MACbook pro "17. Gave me the basic orientation &
> let me loose. Here I was faced with this huge new network trying to
> understand their DWDM, R&S, video, Voice & I couldn't use the machine I was
> given. To say the list I felt super helpless/useless. Imagine your manager
> hyping your competency to your team and director & you are at your desk
> googling how to install a program on your machine. It was like learning the
> implication of right clicking as to left clicking for the first time. I was
> frustrated for I think 2 weeks as everyone mentioned. After that I got the
> basics down. Thank God most of my teammates had similar experiences a year
> before i started. I was begining to feel like a dorde. Today am not an
> expert yet but I am quick to open my MAC instead of my personal win7 laptop.
> Yes I carry both everywhere but use my MAC more. Programs like visio &
> others requiring explor!
> >> er, I use my Win7 laptop for but as mentioned, you can virtualize
> windows on your MAC. Now that am back on my IE pursuit, I run all my labs on
> my MAC. 13/15 routers running without the machine coughing.
> >>
> >>If you a seriously considering getting a new computer & you can curse
> silently without destroying anything around you while you learn, get a MAC.
> You wouldn't regret it. :)
> >>
> >>
> >> Babatunde Sanda B.Sc (Acct.) CCNP, CCVP, CCNA(R,S,V), MCSA, N+, A+.
> >>:: Sent from my Iphone. Apologies for errors and brevity. ::
> >>
> >>On Jun 27, 2011, at 11:11 PM, Vladimir Osipenko <tiffolk_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> My Mom always told me to through out all rotten fruits. I can't
> >>> imagine seeing a core of an apple every day on my table. It smells
> >>> disgusting after a week. I don't know how you guys cope with it.
> >>>
> >>> PC doesn't have such a problem.
> >>> =)
> >>>
> >>> On 28 June 2011 08:25, Thomas Perrier <thomas_at_perrier.name> wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 3:38 AM, -Hammer- <bhmccie_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> One thing I don't see anyone mentioning (I may have missed it) is
> Active
> >>>>> Directory. Until OSX (or IOS (IPAD)) have native AD integration they
> >>>>> will never make it in large enterprise environments as anything more
> >>>>> than a trinket. Yes, Cisco and a few others support them in a large
> >>>>> scale. But take that model outside of the technology vertical and
> Apple
> >>>>> is at a loss. Medical? FI? Government? They all need their AD and
> base a
> >>>>> lot of their security and policy around it. Without AD it's just a
> toy
> >>>>> for the executives and a few folks in I.T...
> >>>>
> >>>> Actually, OS X has had AD integration for years, at least for user
> >>>> authentication and drive mapping. Of course no GPOs, etc.
> >>>>
> >>>> -Thomas
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