Re: MacBook pro - OT

Adium > Miranda

Nuff Said! :-)

On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Anthony Faria <tfaria72_at_gmail.com> wrote:

> The thing is Mac is not as good in enterprise environments. Apple will tell
> you that. They make great machines but you dont have as much software
> support. They are a little more pricy when you do a hardware comparison.
> They are both great. I have an macbook pro and a dell quadcore win 7
> laptop.
> In our environment we lock everything down so Macs don't work as well for
> us. I will say win 7 works fine also. It is the old ford vs Chevy debate
> lol.
>
>
> Tony
>
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Marc,
> >
> > No arguments there, my older brother has few MAC stores in Sydney and we
> > all
> > use MACs and i love it, because the thing works.
> > I mentioned the price, because some companies look at the initial cost
> and
> > support, but i believe in a very near future MACs will take over.
> >
> > I run Win7 with Parallel and i do not have any problems.
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 9:16 AM, marc edwards <renorider_at_gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > hmmmmm. Everyone at Cisco works on Mac's. Seems like all of us in this
> > > string are fans of Macs. Virtualization allows for any platform to
> > > work within a MAC.
> > >
> > > Sorry to disagree Narbik, I believe that MAC's are comparable and
> > > affordable versus the Business class series of Dell/HP. I run a mini
> > > at home that costed under $800 with 8 gb of RAM. A pro can be bought
> > > for under $1500 which is cheaper than my work spent on the HP I am
> > > typing on. Macs are more power friendly so there could be realized
> > > cost savings on running them. Especially over the lifetime of the
> > > device.
> > >
> > > If my boss gives me a Windows box, I most likely throw Ubuntu on it
> > > and virtualize the windows environment anyways. Windows has seen its
> > > hayday and I think times are changing. This is more than just a trend,
> > > it is a technological revolution. Stay ahead of the curve and buy a
> > > MAC!
> > >
> > > Marc Edwards
> > > http://reno-ccie.blogsppot.com
> > > http://cisco-voyage.blogspot.com
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > John,
> > > >
> > > > I could be wrong but i honestly think it's the price.
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 8:59 AM, john matijevic <
> > > john.matijevic_at_gmail.com>wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Helllo Team,
> > > >>
> > > >> I also considered an Apple, but from working with Fortune 500
> > companies,
> > > I
> > > >> find that more businesses uses Windows PCs.
> > > >> At least most likely a Windows PC will be assigned rather than a
> MAC,
> > > from
> > > >> a
> > > >> business point of view. Perhaps smaller companies allow you to be
> more
> > > >> flexible, bigger businesses tend to lease equipment and assign to
> keep
> > > >> standard from support point of view.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Regards,
> > > >> John
> > > >>
> > > >> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Marko Milivojevic <
> > > markom_at_ipexpert.com
> > > >> >wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > I have to agree with "1 year" reevaluation. I haven't touched OG
> for
> > > >> > more than a year now, but I kept an eye on it. I don't see any
> > > >> > dramatic changes. 100% compatibility with Visio would be a must,
> yet
> > I
> > > >> > doubt we'll ever see that. I'm still hoping for a miracle from
> > > >> > Microsoft and a Mac version of Visio :-)
> > > >> >
> > > >> > --
> > > >> > Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
> > > >> > Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
> > > >> >
> > > >> > FREE CCIE training: http://bit.ly/vLecture
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Mailto: markom_at_ipexpert.com
> > > >> > Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
> > > >> > Web: http://www.ipexpert.com/
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 08:14, Carl Gosselin <
> > > carl.gosselin_at_altizone.com
> > > >> >
> > > >> > wrote:
> > > >> > > Yes I tried Omnigraffle and I too was not too impressed with the
> > > >> results
> > > >> > but
> > > >> > > what really killed my hopes for going Mac only was the fact that
> > you
> > > >> had
> > > >> > to
> > > >> > > go through a web site for file conversion between Omnigraffle
> and
> > > >> Visio.
> > > >> > > Like sharing files with otherB collaboratorsB pr clients isn't
> aB
> > > >> > necessity!!!
> > > >> > > I tried Cross-Over for Visio but I found that the video
> rendering
> > > >> > wasn't up
> > > >> > > to par.... VMware Fusion in Unity mode gives me the best of both
> > > >> > worlds...
> > > >> > > I haven't reevaluated for over a year now maybe things improved
> > but
> > > I'm
> > > >> > > happy with my setup.
> > > >> > > -Carl
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Marko Milivojevic <
> > > >> markom_at_ipexpert.com
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > wrote:
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> Oh - add one more. Actually 6 more (that's how much I love
> Macs).
> > > My
> > > >> > >> workhorse is 27" iMac and my laptop is 17" MBP with 8G RAM and
> > SSD.
> > > >> > >> You would have to pry them from my dead cold hands to replace
> > them
> > > >> > >> with Windows machines.
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> And again - Visio is the only reason for me having VMware.
> > > OmniGraffle
> > > >> > >> is just a toy in comparison, I'm afraid.
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> --
> > > >> > >> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
> > > >> > >> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
> > > >> > >>
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> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> Mailto: markom_at_ipexpert.com
> > > >> > >> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
> > > >> > >> Web: http://www.ipexpert.com/
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 06:49, Jeferson Guardia <
> > > jefersonf_at_gmail.com>
> > > >> > >> wrote:
> > > >> > >> > wow.. I didnt expect this discussion to go so further nor I
> > didnt
> > > >> > expect
> > > >> > >> > so
> > > >> > >> > many CCIE's crazy for macs :-) I thought I was one of kind
> > along
> > > >> with
> > > >> > a
> > > >> > >> > few
> > > >> > >> > other guys.. great points raised though.. I was really
> > interested
> > > on
> > > >> > >> > getting
> > > >> > >> > the 512GB SSD but it's like 1,2k more.. It's gotta be really
> > > worth
> > > >> it
> > > >> > to
> > > >> > >> > put
> > > >> > >> > on that extra money.
> > > >> > >> >
> > > >> > >> > I've heard I can buy a 128gb SSD unit later on and replace my
> > CD
> > > >> drive
> > > >> > >> > for
> > > >> > >> > that HD.. I might do that.. :-)
> > > >> > >> >
> > > >> > >> > thanks for everyone's contributtion, my mac is coming really
> > soon
> > > >> and
> > > >> > im
> > > >> > >> > getting rid of everything including my dell's employee i5..
> > > >> whatever!!
> > > >> > >> >
> > > >> > >> > --
> > > >> > >> > Jeferson Guardia
> > > >> > >> > CCIE #28157
> > > >> > >> >
> > > >> > >> >
> > > >> > >> > 2011/6/27 Rick Mur <rmur_at_ipexpert.com>
> > > >> > >> >
> > > >> > >> >> You can just call me by name Scott ;-) It's been a while
> since
> > I
> > > >> sat
> > > >> > >> >> across
> > > >> > >> >> of you ;)
> > > >> > >> >>
> > > >> > >> >> I have the 11" Air with 1.6Ghz and 4GB RAM and 128GB SSD. I
> > can
> > > do
> > > >> > >> >> anything
> > > >> > >> >> on this machine as I could on my previous Core 2 Duo 17"
> > Macbook
> > > >> Pro.
> > > >> > >> >> VMware
> > > >> > >> >> runs blazing fast! As Scott mentioned I use Windows mostly
> for
> > > >> Visio
> > > >> > as
> > > >> > >> >> OmniGraffle has the worst Visio export ever and I kind-of
> need
> > > to
> > > >> > share
> > > >> > >> >> the
> > > >> > >> >> files with other people. So yeah I also need Windows for
> just
> > 1
> > > >> app.
> > > >> > >> >>
> > > >> > >> >> --
> > > >> > >> >>
> > > >> > >> >> Regards,
> > > >> > >> >>
> > > >> > >> >> Rick Mur
> > > >> > >> >> CCIE3 #21946 (R&S / SP / Storage), JNCIP-M #1352
> > > >> > >> >>
> > > >> > >> >>
> > > >> > >> >> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Scott Morris <
> > swm_at_emanon.com>
> > > >> > wrote:
> > > >> > >> >>
> > > >> > >> >> > The SSD is well worth it IMHO. B Power-on is awesome. B
> Even
> > > with
> > > >> > >> >> > full
> > > >> > >> >> > disk encryption, I'm up and logging in within 15 seconds
> and
> > > >> ready
> > > >> > to
> > > >> > >> >> > rock in about 30 seconds. B :) B (If disk check needs to
> be
> > > run
> > > >> it
> > > >> > >> >> > may be
> > > >> > >> >> > 60 seconds, but still much better than normal HDD!)
> > > >> > >> >> >
> > > >> > >> >> > Omnigraffle as mentioned works well for Visio files. B But
> > > just
> > > >> as
> > > >> > >> >> > easily, VMware Fusion with an XP image should run blazing
> > fast
> > > >> > >> >> > (faster
> > > >> > >> >> > on Mac/VM than on my Lenovo T61!).
> > > >> > >> >> >
> > > >> > >> >> > But Visio and Quicken are about the only things that I
> rely
> > on
> > > >> > >> >> > Windoze
> > > >> > >> >> > for any longer. B Other than the occasional #$*&#ing web
> > site
> > > >> that
> > > >> > >> >> > requires Internet Exploder.
> > > >> > >> >> >
> > > >> > >> >> > I own the 17" and love it. B Even though large, it's still
> > > quite
> > > >> > >> >> > light.
> > > >> > >> >> > But with the new versions of things, the 15" MBP or 15"
> Aire
> > > >> should
> > > >> > >> >> > be
> > > >> > >> >> > just as good in most instances.
> > > >> > >> >> >
> > > >> > >> >> > I'm sitting across from someone running the Aire with SSD
> > and
> > > >> > swears
> > > >> > >> >> > it
> > > >> > >> >> > does everything he needs!
> > > >> > >> >> >
> > > >> > >> >> > Pricey yes, but definitely worth it IMHO!
> > > >> > >> >> >
> > > >> > >> >> >
> > > >> > >> >> >
> > > >> > >> >> >
> > > >> > >> >> > *Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service
> > > Provider)
> > > >> > >> >> > #4713,
> > > >> > >> >> >
> > > >> > >> >> > CCDE #2009::D, JNCIE-M #153, JNCIE-ER #102, CISSP, et al.
> > > >> > >> >> >
> > > >> > >> >> > CCSI #21903, JNCI-M, JNCI-ER
> > > >> > >> >> >
> > > >> > >> >> > swm_at_emanon.com
> > > >> > >> >> >
> > > >> > >> >> >
> > > >> > >> >> > Knowledge is power.
> > > >> > >> >> >
> > > >> > >> >> > Power corrupts.
> > > >> > >> >> >
> > > >> > >> >> > Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......
> > > >> > >> >> >
> > > >> > >> >> >
> > > >> > >> >> > On 6/26/11 4:54 AM, Jeferson Guardia wrote:
> > > >> > >> >> > > wow this topic raised SO many good opinions and
> advices..
> > Im
> > > >> > >> >> > > definetly
> > > >> > >> >> > going
> > > >> > >> >> > > for a mac.. :-)
> > > >> > >> >> > >
> > > >> > >> >> > > So, do you guys think is worth adding an extra 1200 USD
> > for
> > > >> > getting
> > > >> > >> >> > > the
> > > >> > >> >> > > 500GB SSD ? My friend told me its just AWESOME.. I think
> > > I`ll
> > > >> get
> > > >> > a
> > > >> > >> >> > 15inch
> > > >> > >> >> > > i7 8gb with that 500gb SSD.. is gonna be a little bit
> > > expensive
> > > >> > but
> > > >> > >> >> such
> > > >> > >> >> > a
> > > >> > >> >> > > nice machine..
> > > >> > >> >> > >
> > > >> > >> >> > > thanks everyone for jumping in :) fun times!!
> > > >> > >> >> > >
> > > >> > >> >> > > 2011/6/25 Carl Gosselin <carl.gosselin_at_altizone.com>
> > > >> > >> >> > >
> > > >> > >> >> > >> I own the 17" MacBook Pro, being a consultant I found
> it
> > > gave
> > > >> me
> > > >> > >> >> > >> the
> > > >> > >> >> > best
> > > >> > >> >> > >> package as a mobile office and I don't think it's heavy
> > to
> > > >> carry
> > > >> > >> >> around.
> > > >> > >> >> > I
> > > >> > >> >> > >> do appreciate the aluminum casing for durability and
> > > style!! I
> > > >> > >> >> > >> have a
> > > >> > >> >> > Time
> > > >> > >> >> > >> Capsule at home for wireless backups... Other then that
> I
> > > use
> > > >> > >> >> > >> iTerm
> > > >> > >> >> and
> > > >> > >> >> > >> VMware fusion for Visio and other Windows app. I did
> run
> > > into
> > > >> > >> >> > >> issues
> > > >> > >> >> > with
> > > >> > >> >> > >> Parallel that pushed me towards fusion but that 3 years
> > > ago...
> > > >> I
> > > >> > >> >> > >> paid
> > > >> > >> >> > for
> > > >> > >> >> > >> the 8GB RAM and 500GB SSD and it was worth it!!!
> > > >> > >> >> > >> I would never go back now that I went Mac!!
> > > >> > >> >> > >> -Carl
> > > >> > >> >> > >> ;-)
> > > >> > >> >> > >>
> > > >> > >> >> > >> ==============================
> > > >> > >> >> > >> Carl Gosselin CCIE R&S Voice #15228
> > > >> > >> >> > >>
> > > >> > >> >> > >> On 2011-06-25, at 20:53, Alexei Monastyrnyi <
> > > >> > alexeim73_at_gmail.com>
> > > >> > >> >> > wrote:
> > > >> > >> >> > >>
> > > >> > >> >> > >>> My wife has a 13" one, the only downside is no
> > anti-glare
> > > >> > screen
> > > >> > >> >> > >>> for
> > > >> > >> >> > >>> this screen size. VMWare Fusion is good, although they
> > say
> > > >> > >> >> Parallelsis
> > > >> > >> >> > >>> 20% faster. And you may find them quite warm siting on
> > > your
> > > >> lap
> > > >> > >> >> > >>> when
> > > >> > >> >> > >>> they are running. :-)
> > > >> > >> >> > >>>
> > > >> > >> >> > >>> Cheers
> > > >> > >> >> > >>> A.
> > > >> > >> >> > >>>
> > > >> > >> >> > >>> On 6/26/2011 6:53 AM, Jeferson Guardia wrote:
> > > >> > >> >> > >>>> Hi,
> > > >> > >> >> > >>>>
> > > >> > >> >> > >>>> Sorry.. This is Totally OT .. I know that..
> > > >> > >> >> > >>>>
> > > >> > >> >> > >>>> I'm a network eng.. Working a lot on pre-sales (visio
> > > diags
> > > >> > etc)
> > > >> > >> >> > >>>> and
> > > >> > >> >> > >> lots of routing voice etc..
> > > >> > >> >> > >>>> I wanna get rid of my Dell and get a mac pro for work
> > and
> > > >> > fun..
> > > >> > >> >> > >>>>
> > > >> > >> >> > >>>> Which one should I get .. The 13.3 , 15 or 17? I
> don't
> > > want
> > > >> > >> >> > >>>> anything
> > > >> > >> >> > >> very heavy because I move a lot.. So I don't think of
> > > getting
> > > >> > the
> > > >> > >> >> > >> 17
> > > >> > >> >> > inch..
> > > >> > >> >> > >> Any recommendations from Mac users working on networks
> > and
> > > >> > stuff??
> > > >> > >> >> > >>>> Regards,
> > > >> > >> >> > >>>>
> > > >> > >> >> > >>>>
> > > >> > >> >> > >>>> B ............................
> > > >> > >> >> > >>>>
> > > >> > >> >> > >>>> Jeferson Guardia
> > > >> > >> >> > >>>> CCIE #28157
> > > >> > >> >> > >>>>
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