It's a UNIX that works. As simple as that.
-- Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert FREE CCIE training: http://bit.ly/vLecture Mailto: markom_at_ipexpert.com Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 Web: http://www.ipexpert.com/ On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 09:46, Larry Letterman <lletterm_at_cisco.com> wrote: > all the contractors in cisco are given a lenovo with windows..and a large > number of FTE's still have them also..a good guess would be that the mac > users have increased by 4 fold in the last 6 yrs.. > > > > > On 6/27/11 11:35 AM, "Ccieyarub" <ccieyarub_at_gmail.com> wrote: > >> Comm on not every one in cisco works with cisco is in Mac there are still so >> many using IBM thinkpads :) >> >> >> On 2011-06-27, at 12:16 PM, marc edwards <renorider_at_gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> hmmmmm. Everyone at Cisco works on Mac's. Seems like all of us in this >>> string are fans of Macs. Virtualization allows for any platform to >>> work within a MAC. >>> >>> Sorry to disagree Narbik, I believe that MAC's are comparable and >>> affordable versus B the Business class series of Dell/HP. I run a mini >>> at home that costed under $800 with 8 gb of RAM. A pro can be bought >>> for under $1500 which is cheaper than my work spent on the HP I am >>> typing on. Macs are more power friendly so there could be realized >>> cost savings on running them. Especially over the lifetime of the >>> device. >>> >>> If my boss gives me a Windows box, I most likely throw Ubuntu on it >>> and virtualize the windows environment anyways. Windows has seen its >>> hayday and I think times are changing. This is more than just a trend, >>> it is a technological revolution. Stay ahead of the curve and buy a >>> MAC! >>> >>> Marc Edwards >>> http://reno-ccie.blogsppot.com >>> http://cisco-voyage.blogspot.com >>> >>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com> wrote: >>>> John, >>>> >>>> I could be wrong but i honestly think it's the price. >>>> >>>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 8:59 AM, john matijevic >>>> <john.matijevic_at_gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Helllo Team, >>>>> >>>>> I also considered an Apple, but from working with Fortune 500 companies, I >>>>> find that more businesses uses Windows PCs. >>>>> At least most likely a Windows PC will be assigned rather than a MAC, from >>>>> a >>>>> business point of view. Perhaps smaller companies allow you to be more >>>>> flexible, bigger businesses tend to lease equipment and assign to keep >>>>> standard from support point of view. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> John >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com >>>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I have to agree with "1 year" reevaluation. I haven't touched OG for >>>>>> more than a year now, but I kept an eye on it. I don't see any >>>>>> dramatic changes. 100% compatibility with Visio would be a must, yet I >>>>>> doubt we'll ever see that. I'm still hoping for a miracle from >>>>>> Microsoft and a Mac version of Visio :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 >>>>>> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert >>>>>> >>>>>> FREE CCIE training: http://bit.ly/vLecture >>>>>> >>>>>> Mailto: markom_at_ipexpert.com >>>>>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 >>>>>> Web: http://www.ipexpert.com/ >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 08:14, Carl Gosselin <carl.gosselin_at_altizone.com >>>>>> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> Yes I tried Omnigraffle and I too was not too impressed with the >>>>> results >>>>>> but >>>>>>> what really killed my hopes for going Mac only was the fact that you >>>>> had >>>>>> to >>>>>>> go through a web site for file conversion between Omnigraffle and >>>>> Visio. >>>>>>> Like sharing files with otherB collaboratorsB pr clients isn't aB >>>>>> necessity!!! >>>>>>> I tried Cross-Over for Visio but I found that the video rendering >>>>>> wasn't up >>>>>>> to par.... VMware Fusion in Unity mode gives me the best of both >>>>>> worlds... >>>>>>> I haven't reevaluated for over a year now maybe things improved but I'm >>>>>>> happy with my setup. >>>>>>> -Carl >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Marko Milivojevic < >>>>> markom_at_ipexpert.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Oh - add one more. Actually 6 more (that's how much I love Macs). My >>>>>>>> workhorse is 27" iMac and my laptop is 17" MBP with 8G RAM and SSD. >>>>>>>> You would have to pry them from my dead cold hands to replace them >>>>>>>> with Windows machines. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And again - Visio is the only reason for me having VMware. OmniGraffle >>>>>>>> is just a toy in comparison, I'm afraid. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427 >>>>>>>> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> FREE CCIE training: http://bit.ly/vLecture >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Mailto: markom_at_ipexpert.com >>>>>>>> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444 >>>>>>>> Web: http://www.ipexpert.com/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 06:49, Jeferson Guardia <jefersonf_at_gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> wow.. I didnt expect this discussion to go so further nor I didnt >>>>>> expect >>>>>>>>> so >>>>>>>>> many CCIE's crazy for macs :-) I thought I was one of kind along >>>>> with >>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> few >>>>>>>>> other guys.. great points raised though.. I was really interested on >>>>>>>>> getting >>>>>>>>> the 512GB SSD but it's like 1,2k more.. It's gotta be really worth >>>>> it >>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> put >>>>>>>>> on that extra money. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've heard I can buy a 128gb SSD unit later on and replace my CD >>>>> drive >>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>> that HD.. I might do that.. :-) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> thanks for everyone's contributtion, my mac is coming really soon >>>>> and >>>>>> im >>>>>>>>> getting rid of everything including my dell's employee i5.. >>>>> whatever!! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Jeferson Guardia >>>>>>>>> CCIE #28157 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 2011/6/27 Rick Mur <rmur_at_ipexpert.com> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You can just call me by name Scott ;-) It's been a while since I >>>>> sat >>>>>>>>>> across >>>>>>>>>> of you ;) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have the 11" Air with 1.6Ghz and 4GB RAM and 128GB SSD. I can do >>>>>>>>>> anything >>>>>>>>>> on this machine as I could on my previous Core 2 Duo 17" Macbook >>>>> Pro. >>>>>>>>>> VMware >>>>>>>>>> runs blazing fast! As Scott mentioned I use Windows mostly for >>>>> Visio >>>>>> as >>>>>>>>>> OmniGraffle has the worst Visio export ever and I kind-of need to >>>>>> share >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> files with other people. So yeah I also need Windows for just 1 >>>>> app. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Rick Mur >>>>>>>>>> CCIE3 #21946 (R&S / SP / Storage), JNCIP-M #1352 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Scott Morris <swm_at_emanon.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The SSD is well worth it IMHO. B Power-on is awesome. B Even with >>>>>>>>>>> full >>>>>>>>>>> disk encryption, I'm up and logging in within 15 seconds and >>>>> ready >>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>> rock in about 30 seconds. B :) B (If disk check needs to be run >>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>> may be >>>>>>>>>>> 60 seconds, but still much better than normal HDD!) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Omnigraffle as mentioned works well for Visio files. B But just >>>>> as >>>>>>>>>>> easily, VMware Fusion with an XP image should run blazing fast >>>>>>>>>>> (faster >>>>>>>>>>> on Mac/VM than on my Lenovo T61!). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> But Visio and Quicken are about the only things that I rely on >>>>>>>>>>> Windoze >>>>>>>>>>> for any longer. B Other than the occasional #$*&#ing web site >>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>> requires Internet Exploder. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I own the 17" and love it. B Even though large, it's still quite >>>>>>>>>>> light. >>>>>>>>>>> But with the new versions of things, the 15" MBP or 15" Aire >>>>> should >>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>> just as good in most instances. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm sitting across from someone running the Aire with SSD and >>>>>> swears >>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>> does everything he needs! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Pricey yes, but definitely worth it IMHO! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider) >>>>>>>>>>> #4713, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> CCDE #2009::D, JNCIE-M #153, JNCIE-ER #102, CISSP, et al. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> CCSI #21903, JNCI-M, JNCI-ER >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> swm_at_emanon.com >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Knowledge is power. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Power corrupts. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil...... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 6/26/11 4:54 AM, Jeferson Guardia wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> wow this topic raised SO many good opinions and advices.. Im >>>>>>>>>>>> definetly >>>>>>>>>>> going >>>>>>>>>>>> for a mac.. :-) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> So, do you guys think is worth adding an extra 1200 USD for >>>>>> getting >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> 500GB SSD ? My friend told me its just AWESOME.. I think I`ll >>>>> get >>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>> 15inch >>>>>>>>>>>> i7 8gb with that 500gb SSD.. is gonna be a little bit expensive >>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>> such >>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>> nice machine.. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> thanks everyone for jumping in :) fun times!! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2011/6/25 Carl Gosselin <carl.gosselin_at_altizone.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I own the 17" MacBook Pro, being a consultant I found it gave >>>>> me >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> best >>>>>>>>>>>>> package as a mobile office and I don't think it's heavy to >>>>> carry >>>>>>>>>> around. >>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>>> do appreciate the aluminum casing for durability and style!! I >>>>>>>>>>>>> have a >>>>>>>>>>> Time >>>>>>>>>>>>> Capsule at home for wireless backups... Other then that I use >>>>>>>>>>>>> iTerm >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>> VMware fusion for Visio and other Windows app. I did run into >>>>>>>>>>>>> issues >>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>> Parallel that pushed me towards fusion but that 3 years ago... >>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>>> paid >>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>> the 8GB RAM and 500GB SSD and it was worth it!!! >>>>>>>>>>>>> I would never go back now that I went Mac!! >>>>>>>>>>>>> -Carl >>>>>>>>>>>>> ;-) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ============================== >>>>>>>>>>>>> Carl Gosselin CCIE R&S Voice #15228 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2011-06-25, at 20:53, Alexei Monastyrnyi < >>>>>> alexeim73_at_gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> My wife has a 13" one, the only downside is no anti-glare >>>>>> screen >>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>> this screen size. VMWare Fusion is good, although they say >>>>>>>>>> Parallelsis >>>>>>>>>>>>> 20% faster. And you may find them quite warm siting on your >>>>> lap >>>>>>>>>>>>> when >>>>>>>>>>>>> they are running. :-) >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers >>>>>>>>>>>>> A. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 6/26/2011 6:53 AM, Jeferson Guardia wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry.. This is Totally OT .. I know that.. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm a network eng.. Working a lot on pre-sales (visio diags >>>>>> etc) >>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>> lots of routing voice etc.. >>>>>>>>>>>>> I wanna get rid of my Dell and get a mac pro for work and >>>>>> fun.. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Which one should I get .. The 13.3 , 15 or 17? I don't want >>>>>>>>>>>>> anything >>>>>>>>>>>>> very heavy because I move a lot.. So I don't think of getting >>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> 17 >>>>>>>>>>> inch.. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Any recommendations from Mac users working on networks and >>>>>> stuff?? >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> B ............................ >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeferson Guardia >>>>>>>>>>>>> CCIE #28157 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subscription information may be found at: >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subscription information may be found at: >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> Subscription information may be found at: >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Subscription information may be found at: >>>>>>>>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Subscription information may be found at: >>>>>>>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Subscription information may be found at: >>>>>>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________________________________ >>>>>> Subscription information may be found at: >>>>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Blogs and organic groups at http://www.ccie.net >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________________________________ >>>>> Subscription information may be found at: >>>>> http://www.groupstudy.com/list/CCIELab.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> *Narbik Kocharians >>>> *CCSI#30832, CCIE# 12410 (R&S, SP, Security) >>>> www.MicronicsTraining.com <http://www.micronicstraining.com/> >>>> Sr. Technical Instructor >>>> *Ask about our FREE Lab Voucher with our Boot Camps* >>>> YES! 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