Re: MacBook pro - OT

hmmmmm. Everyone at Cisco works on Mac's. Seems like all of us in this
string are fans of Macs. Virtualization allows for any platform to
work within a MAC.

Sorry to disagree Narbik, I believe that MAC's are comparable and
affordable versus the Business class series of Dell/HP. I run a mini
at home that costed under $800 with 8 gb of RAM. A pro can be bought
for under $1500 which is cheaper than my work spent on the HP I am
typing on. Macs are more power friendly so there could be realized
cost savings on running them. Especially over the lifetime of the
device.

If my boss gives me a Windows box, I most likely throw Ubuntu on it
and virtualize the windows environment anyways. Windows has seen its
hayday and I think times are changing. This is more than just a trend,
it is a technological revolution. Stay ahead of the curve and buy a
MAC!

Marc Edwards
http://reno-ccie.blogsppot.com
http://cisco-voyage.blogspot.com

On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Narbik Kocharians <narbikk_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> John,
>
> I could be wrong but i honestly think it's the price.
>
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 8:59 AM, john matijevic <john.matijevic_at_gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Helllo Team,
>>
>> I also considered an Apple, but from working with Fortune 500 companies, I
>> find that more businesses uses Windows PCs.
>> At least most likely a Windows PC will be assigned rather than a MAC, from
>> a
>> business point of view. Perhaps smaller companies allow you to be more
>> flexible, bigger businesses tend to lease equipment and assign to keep
>> standard from support point of view.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> John
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Marko Milivojevic <markom_at_ipexpert.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > I have to agree with "1 year" reevaluation. I haven't touched OG for
>> > more than a year now, but I kept an eye on it. I don't see any
>> > dramatic changes. 100% compatibility with Visio would be a must, yet I
>> > doubt we'll ever see that. I'm still hoping for a miracle from
>> > Microsoft and a Mac version of Visio :-)
>> >
>> > --
>> > Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
>> > Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
>> >
>> > FREE CCIE training: http://bit.ly/vLecture
>> >
>> > Mailto: markom_at_ipexpert.com
>> > Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
>> > Web: http://www.ipexpert.com/
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 08:14, Carl Gosselin <carl.gosselin_at_altizone.com
>> >
>> > wrote:
>> > > Yes I tried Omnigraffle and I too was not too impressed with the
>> results
>> > but
>> > > what really killed my hopes for going Mac only was the fact that you
>> had
>> > to
>> > > go through a web site for file conversion between Omnigraffle and
>> Visio.
>> > > Like sharing files with otherB collaboratorsB pr clients isn't aB
>> > necessity!!!
>> > > I tried Cross-Over for Visio but I found that the video rendering
>> > wasn't up
>> > > to par.... VMware Fusion in Unity mode gives me the best of both
>> > worlds...
>> > > I haven't reevaluated for over a year now maybe things improved but I'm
>> > > happy with my setup.
>> > > -Carl
>> > >
>> > > On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Marko Milivojevic <
>> markom_at_ipexpert.com
>> > >
>> > > wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Oh - add one more. Actually 6 more (that's how much I love Macs). My
>> > >> workhorse is 27" iMac and my laptop is 17" MBP with 8G RAM and SSD.
>> > >> You would have to pry them from my dead cold hands to replace them
>> > >> with Windows machines.
>> > >>
>> > >> And again - Visio is the only reason for me having VMware. OmniGraffle
>> > >> is just a toy in comparison, I'm afraid.
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> Marko Milivojevic - CCIE #18427
>> > >> Senior Technical Instructor - IPexpert
>> > >>
>> > >> FREE CCIE training: http://bit.ly/vLecture
>> > >>
>> > >> Mailto: markom_at_ipexpert.com
>> > >> Telephone: +1.810.326.1444
>> > >> Web: http://www.ipexpert.com/
>> > >>
>> > >> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 06:49, Jeferson Guardia <jefersonf_at_gmail.com>
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >> > wow.. I didnt expect this discussion to go so further nor I didnt
>> > expect
>> > >> > so
>> > >> > many CCIE's crazy for macs :-) I thought I was one of kind along
>> with
>> > a
>> > >> > few
>> > >> > other guys.. great points raised though.. I was really interested on
>> > >> > getting
>> > >> > the 512GB SSD but it's like 1,2k more.. It's gotta be really worth
>> it
>> > to
>> > >> > put
>> > >> > on that extra money.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > I've heard I can buy a 128gb SSD unit later on and replace my CD
>> drive
>> > >> > for
>> > >> > that HD.. I might do that.. :-)
>> > >> >
>> > >> > thanks for everyone's contributtion, my mac is coming really soon
>> and
>> > im
>> > >> > getting rid of everything including my dell's employee i5..
>> whatever!!
>> > >> >
>> > >> > --
>> > >> > Jeferson Guardia
>> > >> > CCIE #28157
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> > 2011/6/27 Rick Mur <rmur_at_ipexpert.com>
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> You can just call me by name Scott ;-) It's been a while since I
>> sat
>> > >> >> across
>> > >> >> of you ;)
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> I have the 11" Air with 1.6Ghz and 4GB RAM and 128GB SSD. I can do
>> > >> >> anything
>> > >> >> on this machine as I could on my previous Core 2 Duo 17" Macbook
>> Pro.
>> > >> >> VMware
>> > >> >> runs blazing fast! As Scott mentioned I use Windows mostly for
>> Visio
>> > as
>> > >> >> OmniGraffle has the worst Visio export ever and I kind-of need to
>> > share
>> > >> >> the
>> > >> >> files with other people. So yeah I also need Windows for just 1
>> app.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> --
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Regards,
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Rick Mur
>> > >> >> CCIE3 #21946 (R&S / SP / Storage), JNCIP-M #1352
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Scott Morris <swm_at_emanon.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> > The SSD is well worth it IMHO. B Power-on is awesome. B Even with
>> > >> >> > full
>> > >> >> > disk encryption, I'm up and logging in within 15 seconds and
>> ready
>> > to
>> > >> >> > rock in about 30 seconds. B :) B (If disk check needs to be run
>> it
>> > >> >> > may be
>> > >> >> > 60 seconds, but still much better than normal HDD!)
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Omnigraffle as mentioned works well for Visio files. B But just
>> as
>> > >> >> > easily, VMware Fusion with an XP image should run blazing fast
>> > >> >> > (faster
>> > >> >> > on Mac/VM than on my Lenovo T61!).
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > But Visio and Quicken are about the only things that I rely on
>> > >> >> > Windoze
>> > >> >> > for any longer. B Other than the occasional #$*&#ing web site
>> that
>> > >> >> > requires Internet Exploder.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > I own the 17" and love it. B Even though large, it's still quite
>> > >> >> > light.
>> > >> >> > But with the new versions of things, the 15" MBP or 15" Aire
>> should
>> > >> >> > be
>> > >> >> > just as good in most instances.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > I'm sitting across from someone running the Aire with SSD and
>> > swears
>> > >> >> > it
>> > >> >> > does everything he needs!
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Pricey yes, but definitely worth it IMHO!
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > *Scott Morris*, CCIE/x4/ (R&S/ISP-Dial/Security/Service Provider)
>> > >> >> > #4713,
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > CCDE #2009::D, JNCIE-M #153, JNCIE-ER #102, CISSP, et al.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > CCSI #21903, JNCI-M, JNCI-ER
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > swm_at_emanon.com
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Knowledge is power.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Power corrupts.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > Study hard and be Eeeeviiiil......
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > On 6/26/11 4:54 AM, Jeferson Guardia wrote:
>> > >> >> > > wow this topic raised SO many good opinions and advices.. Im
>> > >> >> > > definetly
>> > >> >> > going
>> > >> >> > > for a mac.. :-)
>> > >> >> > >
>> > >> >> > > So, do you guys think is worth adding an extra 1200 USD for
>> > getting
>> > >> >> > > the
>> > >> >> > > 500GB SSD ? My friend told me its just AWESOME.. I think I`ll
>> get
>> > a
>> > >> >> > 15inch
>> > >> >> > > i7 8gb with that 500gb SSD.. is gonna be a little bit expensive
>> > but
>> > >> >> such
>> > >> >> > a
>> > >> >> > > nice machine..
>> > >> >> > >
>> > >> >> > > thanks everyone for jumping in :) fun times!!
>> > >> >> > >
>> > >> >> > > 2011/6/25 Carl Gosselin <carl.gosselin_at_altizone.com>
>> > >> >> > >
>> > >> >> > >> I own the 17" MacBook Pro, being a consultant I found it gave
>> me
>> > >> >> > >> the
>> > >> >> > best
>> > >> >> > >> package as a mobile office and I don't think it's heavy to
>> carry
>> > >> >> around.
>> > >> >> > I
>> > >> >> > >> do appreciate the aluminum casing for durability and style!! I
>> > >> >> > >> have a
>> > >> >> > Time
>> > >> >> > >> Capsule at home for wireless backups... Other then that I use
>> > >> >> > >> iTerm
>> > >> >> and
>> > >> >> > >> VMware fusion for Visio and other Windows app. I did run into
>> > >> >> > >> issues
>> > >> >> > with
>> > >> >> > >> Parallel that pushed me towards fusion but that 3 years ago...
>> I
>> > >> >> > >> paid
>> > >> >> > for
>> > >> >> > >> the 8GB RAM and 500GB SSD and it was worth it!!!
>> > >> >> > >> I would never go back now that I went Mac!!
>> > >> >> > >> -Carl
>> > >> >> > >> ;-)
>> > >> >> > >>
>> > >> >> > >> ==============================
>> > >> >> > >> Carl Gosselin CCIE R&S Voice #15228
>> > >> >> > >>
>> > >> >> > >> On 2011-06-25, at 20:53, Alexei Monastyrnyi <
>> > alexeim73_at_gmail.com>
>> > >> >> > wrote:
>> > >> >> > >>
>> > >> >> > >>> My wife has a 13" one, the only downside is no anti-glare
>> > screen
>> > >> >> > >>> for
>> > >> >> > >>> this screen size. VMWare Fusion is good, although they say
>> > >> >> Parallelsis
>> > >> >> > >>> 20% faster. And you may find them quite warm siting on your
>> lap
>> > >> >> > >>> when
>> > >> >> > >>> they are running. :-)
>> > >> >> > >>>
>> > >> >> > >>> Cheers
>> > >> >> > >>> A.
>> > >> >> > >>>
>> > >> >> > >>> On 6/26/2011 6:53 AM, Jeferson Guardia wrote:
>> > >> >> > >>>> Hi,
>> > >> >> > >>>>
>> > >> >> > >>>> Sorry.. This is Totally OT .. I know that..
>> > >> >> > >>>>
>> > >> >> > >>>> I'm a network eng.. Working a lot on pre-sales (visio diags
>> > etc)
>> > >> >> > >>>> and
>> > >> >> > >> lots of routing voice etc..
>> > >> >> > >>>> I wanna get rid of my Dell and get a mac pro for work and
>> > fun..
>> > >> >> > >>>>
>> > >> >> > >>>> Which one should I get .. The 13.3 , 15 or 17? I don't want
>> > >> >> > >>>> anything
>> > >> >> > >> very heavy because I move a lot.. So I don't think of getting
>> > the
>> > >> >> > >> 17
>> > >> >> > inch..
>> > >> >> > >> Any recommendations from Mac users working on networks and
>> > stuff??
>> > >> >> > >>>> Regards,
>> > >> >> > >>>>
>> > >> >> > >>>>
>> > >> >> > >>>> B ............................
>> > >> >> > >>>>
>> > >> >> > >>>> Jeferson Guardia
>> > >> >> > >>>> CCIE #28157
>> > >> >> > >>>>
>> > >> >> > >>>>
>> > >> >> > >>>> Sent from my iPhone
>> > >> >> > >>>>
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